And they wonder why there's a Budget Deficit

Coolhandluke

If Power is returned to London will they all be out of a job???
lets hope an agreement isnt Reached then

warmhands.coldheart

Coolhandluke wrote: »

If Power is returned to London will they all be out of a job???

Fat Chance.... they'll all just go on "Gardening Leave" and still get paid for doing f3ck all !!

qwert_yuiop

lazer wrote: »

Its not really an advantage, when if you exclude the public sector wages are also probably half and unemployment is much higher.


FWIW - I will compare wages in my old firm (This is about 10 years, but the same situation occurs now, just with higher figures)
Graduate training salary Belfast - £11,000
Graduate training salary (Inverness) - £24,000


Inverness was the 2nd lowest in the UK, other places were much higher again.

Lower unemployment here than North east, northwest England, Yorkshire, West Midlands and London.

Private sector pay is 20% lower than the U.K. average. Notoriously difficult to make a fair comparison of course, but it might be interesting to know what the uk average is without obviously specific highly paid businesses such as the oil industry in Aberdeen - or financial services in London. I suspect not an awful lot different from here.

lazer

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Lower unemployment here than North east, northwest England, Yorkshire, West Midlands and London.

Private sector pay is 20% lower than the U.K. average. Notoriously difficult to make a fair comparison of course, but it might be interesting to know what the uk average is without obviously specific highly paid businesses such as the oil industry in Aberdeen - or financial services in London. I suspect not an awful lot different from here.

I have just looked up my industry average salaries
London: £55k - £65k
The South: £50k - £60k
Midlands & The North - £50k - £55k
Scotland - £42k - £50k
Northern Ireland - £25k - £35k


I would say many unskilled jobs have relatively similar salaries across the water and here, whereas the skilled jobs and professions, salaries are a lot lower!


I have been trying to get into the public sector for about 4 years now, but few opportunities come up and competition is very high for them!

eljapo4

lazer wrote: »

I have just looked up my industry average salaries
London: £55k - £65k
The South: £50k - £60k
Midlands & The North - £50k - £55k
Scotland - £42k - £50k
Northern Ireland - £25k - £35k


I would say many unskilled jobs have relatively similar salaries across the water and here, whereas the skilled jobs and professions, salaries are a lot lower!


I have been trying to get into the public sector for about 4 years now, but few opportunities come up and competition is very high for them!

Why are you so keen to get into the PS?

saverbuyer

eljapo4 wrote: »

Why are you so keen to get into the PS?

At a guess I'd say it's much better when you start churning out the nippers.

saverbuyer

lazer wrote: »

I have just looked up my industry average salaries
London: £55k - £65k
The South: £50k - £60k
Midlands & The North - £50k - £55k
Scotland - £42k - £50k
Northern Ireland - £25k - £35k


I would say many unskilled jobs have relatively similar salaries across the water and here, whereas the skilled jobs and professions, salaries are a lot lower!


I have been trying to get into the public sector for about 4 years now, but few opportunities come up and competition is very high for them!

We're over subscribed here with certain professions, solicitors, accountants, teachers etc. have been churned out of Queens and the Poly for years drives the average down. You have to be above average to get England average salaries for most professions.

Supply and demand.

guiriman

I got an interview a couple of years ago for the public sector, the salary was a good chunk lower but considering the extra holidays, flexible working and the vastly improved pension it was about the same financially for significantly less responsibility. Pulled out before I made it that far as when I read the job spec I knew I'd be bored to tears in the role and I just couldn't face that every day.

saverbuyer

guiriman wrote: »

I got an interview a couple of years ago for the public sector, the salary was a good chunk lower but considering the extra holidays, flexible working and the vastly improved pension it was about the same financially for significantly less responsibility. Pulled out before I made it that far as when I read the job spec I knew I'd be bored to tears in the role and I just couldn't face that every day.

Yep, you'd easily have to contribute 25-40% of your private sector equivalent salary to get a similar pension.

qwert_yuiop

lazer wrote: »

I have just looked up my industry average salaries
London: £55k - £65k
The South: £50k - £60k
Midlands & The North - £50k - £55k
Scotland - £42k - £50k
Northern Ireland - £25k - £35k


I would say many unskilled jobs have relatively similar salaries across the water and here, whereas the skilled jobs and professions, salaries are a lot lower!


I have been trying to get into the public sector for about 4 years now, but few opportunities come up and competition is very high for them!

What's your work?

Back when I worked in London, admittedly pre crunch, I met a young doctor, around 25 or 26, who'd jacked in her job to get a proper well paid job in the City. A doctor.

Those City type jobs don't exist here, maybe they don't exist there any more either, but if they do, they must skew the averages significantly. Similarly, they don't exist in Shropshire or Somerset either.

Something else - if you work in London, you have to choose between paying most of your salary in rent or mortgage, or paying a huge chunk of your salary to the railway company and spending a huge chunk of your life on the train. Heads you lose, tails you don't win. It makes life as a hippy in a squat quite an attractive option. Maybe that doesn't exist either.