Hospital Civil Parking Notice

chookmom

Hi, I have read the stickies but all those acronyms have made my head spin and I am unsure if I should be waiting or appealing.
I won't bore you with details as I imagine they don't matter much but I am an NHS employee and attended a hospital today, not my own, as part of my work, nowhere to park, meeting due to start,abandoned car on yellow lines with others, not obstructing.
I returned to find myself and several others had a Civil Parking Notice with a legal breech of contract attached to windscreen. It has the Trusts name at the top and Trethowans Solicitors as the Trusts agents.
Is this the PCN? Is it a small company?, how do I know if they are IAS or BPA?
Thank you so much for your attention

Ryan_Bryan

This could be a hospital that has been mentioned here several times before. Even if it isn't Aintree then it'll be a familiar pattern. I don't know the relationship between any Trust and Trethowans but one of the experts can inform you. Trethowans are well known for half-assed court cases where they lose and the Trust foots a bill. Have a read here.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4993265

Court defeat here.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4925752

Even lost a case over a driver with 25 tickets.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3672741

chookmom

Oxford Hospitals.
Should I appeal to my own Trusts HR dept as I was there on their business or to the other Trust or neither as it is out of their hands?
Thank you

Ryan_Bryan

It's always worth a go but hold fire for now. There have been a lot of cases on the forum where hospital workers have been ticketed and their own departments have not lifted a finger to help them. In fact some have been very ignorant in their responses. Others will know better but I don't recall many hospital workers taken to court by Trethowans on behalf of a trust.
Further to your original post, I don't see the Trust or hospital itself on the BPA members list so for now you should ignore it until/unless you receive a notice to keeper.

Umkomaas

Definitely await the Notice to Keeper. Meantime do some searches on here, but more so on Pepipoo where they've dealt with more Trethowans/NHS Trust cases. This will give you a better understanding of how to deal with this going forward. Read the most recent threads first, rather than those from further back in time.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=60

Coupon-mad

There won't be a Notice to Keeper, there will be a daft follow up letter from Trethowans (sent too soon and not worded under the POFA) exactly like this:

http://imgur.com/NkBWaDm

The rk should treat that as if it was the NTK and send a shortened version of the template first appeal from the Newbies thread, or a version similar to the efforts so far, as shown recently in this Oxford Hospital PCN thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5072425

It's a fun one because it won't follow the usual pattern (i.e. no POPLA nor IAS is involved because this is about Trethowans acting for the landowner and making a real pig's ear of it!). And Trethowans will protest they can send what they like when they like. To which the keeper (who NEVER divulges who was driving!) can say 'OK but you've got no keeper liability then, and there have been no admissions in regards to who may have been driving, so good luck with that and I am surprised various BPA member ex-clampers can come up with a 'Notice to Keeper' (of sorts) and yet a Solicitor firm cannot!'.

chookmom

Many thanks.
Will read and digest all of that and prepare myself