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  • Is there a template letter I can send to Wetherby MOTO?

    My case for parking in a Coach Bay is quite embarrassing and I'm not sure how it would be received by them.

    Myself, my wife and her friend were travelling up to Newcastle to take part in the Great North Run. The services were unbelievably busy and there was traffic queuing to get in to the car parks.

    My wifes friend had been suffering with a sickness bug and had to go to the toilet 'immediately'. I therefore stopped at the nearest place I could (Coach Bay) and we all got out to make sure she was ok.

    On our return to the car there was a ticket on the drivers side window.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Your reasons are irrelevant and pretty weak. Someone could have stayed in the car.

    I would have thought that by reading the Newbies thread and other threads on here you would have picked up that mitigation almost never works. But by all means confirm that you were the driver and did contravene the t&c by parking where you should not. That would help the PPC enormously if they took you to court.

    Look, I know it's all a bit different, but you have been given excellent advice above.

    Personally, I would tough it out by doing nothing and wait till any court papers arrive but if you don't like to do nothing, write to the PPc saying that you deny any knowledge of the alleged contravention.
  • Umkomaas
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    Is there a template letter I can send to Wetherby MOTO?

    Nope - complaint is down to you on this one (sorry for any 'inconvenience'!). But, I wouldn't be trotting out the story about the Great North Run or the coach parking area. I'd be doing it on the basis of valuable customers needing a rest for safety reasons, bringing their business to MOTO, then being fleeced by agents working on behalf of them.

    Coupon has given you a lead-in with the link to the newspaper article. You could also search this forum and Pepipoo on 'MOTO', or do a Google on 'MOTO parking charges/penalties'.

    A little bit of work for you to do - or just continue to ignore anything other than a Letter Before Action or real court papers (both unlikely) from the PPC.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Many thanks for your replies.

    I am just going to ignore it. If I end up going to court I suppose I will just have to pay it yeah?
  • Redx
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    Many thanks for your replies.

    I am just going to ignore it. If I end up going to court I suppose I will just have to pay it yeah?

    only if you lost the case (and they won)
  • Umkomaas
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    Many thanks for your replies.

    I am just going to ignore it. If I end up going to court I suppose I will just have to pay it yeah?

    'Going to court' will involve you in a hell of a lot more research and paperwork than banging out a strongly-worded complaint to MOTO!

    And, if you can't get this knocked on the head now, you potentially have it hanging over you for 6 years from the date of the parking event. However, CPP are not currently litigious.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/322893/british-parking-association.doc

    .......... but neither were ParkingEye two years ago; now they're issuing around 1,000 court papers every month, bringing monthly work, grief and anxiety to that number of motorists.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Think I am officially getting stressed out now!!!!!


    Few more grey hairs to add........


    Haven't got a clue what to write to MOTO - not alone making it sound like a strongly worded complaint.


    As a newbie to the world of 'Car Parking Fines' I don't actually really know what the landowners and PPCs are actually doing!!
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 11 December 2014 at 12:51AM
    Try reading the sticky thread called 'Successful complaints about PPCs' which I have collated for many, many months. It's right up near the top of the forum in Crabman's 'parking forum stickies'. Loads of solid complaint examples linked there. That's what all the stickies are for.


    Also re this:
    On our return to the car there was a ticket on the drivers side window.
    So it was a windscreen ticket from CP Plus which is unusual in a MSA. So I expect the first letter you got was a debt collector letter 2 months or more later? Therefore (in the absence of a compliant Notice to Keeper letter, which CP Plus do not issue after a windscreen ticket) the KEEPER IS NOT LIABLE. So do NOT give away who was driving the vehicle, when complaining!
    I am still unsure as to my next course of action.

    I hope this thread helps others in a similar situation.

    The forums strongly suggest that 'you do not pay' but 'you do not ignore'. This implies actually doing something.
    Yes, you should have 'done something' when you got the first letter. Now you have missed the appeal chance, so complaining is worth a punt (written as 'we did this' or 'the driver did that', NOT 'I PARKED'!!). But it's really not worth worrying about if not cancelled. Just means you have left yourself open to...*drum roll*...more letters, and some from 'Zenith' as well...big wow:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3829727

    and let this search self-load, and then get bored reading the results over the years of people ignoring the same letter chain and laughing at it!

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zenith+CP+Plus+site%3Aforums.moneysavingexpert.com

    HTH
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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