People parking on the pavement blocking the path

hollydays

GwylimT wrote: »

Buying/renting a property that doesn't meet your needs is not an excuse to park on the pavement, however the people who do park on pavements clearly aren't concerned about other people so they are unlikely to forward plan.

I'm afraid in many roads where I live which are extremely old and extremely narrow it is a necessity for all the people in one road in particular . The police don't have a problem with it. They say it's a 21st century problem in an 18th century area.those of us who are lucky enough to afford our own parking really have to get along with others. I'd much prefer they park partially on the pavement then cause difficulty for a wider vehicle. Where I live it isn't built up and does no harm.

GwylimT

hollydays wrote: »

I'm afraid in many roads where I live which are extremely old and extremely narrow it is a necessity for all the people in one road in particular . The police don't have a problem with it. They say it's a 21st century problem in an 18th century area.

It wouldn't be necessary if they engaged their brains and lived in a home that was both suited to their needs and does not inconvenience others.

hollydays

GwylimT wrote: »

It wouldn't be necessary if they engaged their brains and lived in a home that was both suited to their needs and does not inconvenience others.

I don't know my neighbours financial situations , several of them bought their homes 40 years ago, I expect they should have foreseen the increase in traffic,silly people.., they should have realised each house might have three up to three cars..
neither do I look down on their choice of habitation. As the house s were built several centuries ago , perhaps we should bulldoze inconvenient accommodation and replace with something more convenient?
You know there are people nearby who actually believe they own the bit of parking outside their home.
Talk about brains!

rach_k

Is the road wide enough to allow them to park fully on the road or enough on the road to still allow wheelchairs, buggies etc past on the path? If it is, I'd be very tempted to show them how they should be parking so both cars and people can get past safely. A few occasions of returning home to find your car parked outside their house might convince them that it's possible to be considerate to all. Either that or go for a walk at 4am and ring their doorbell to ask them to move the car so you can get past without having to walk on the road.

hollydays

rach_k wrote: »

Is the road wide enough to allow them to park fully on the road or enough on the road to still allow wheelchairs, buggies etc past on the path? If it is, I'd be very tempted to show them how they should be parking so both cars and people can get past safely. A few occasions of returning home to find your car parked outside their house might convince them that it's possible to be considerate to all. Either that or go for a walk at 4am and ring their doorbell to ask them to move the car so you can get past without having to walk on the road.

On my road it's not a problem. Both these could get past.
The blanket assertion that one should park on the pavement doesn't fit all situations. People have a very territorial attitude .

FOREVER21

There is a big difference between parking part on road and pavement and parking completely on the pavement as the OP complains about.

In our street if people did not park partially on pavement and road then cars would not be able to travel down the road.
I'm afraid as the number of the cars per household increases often due to children staying longer with their parents, this problem will increase.
One thing that does irritate me however is when people choose for whatever reason not to use their garage, but park one car on the drive and the second one on the road/ pavement. But hey it is after all a free country.
OP in the circumstances you quote if you approach your council they will look into the position if the pavement is really impassible especially if used by people with prams or wheelchairs.

Elsewhere

Seems the police can issue a ticket in some circumstances. This is from Dorset's parking policy - the council take a dim view of pavement parking:-

"2.39 Pavement Parking
Pavements are constructed and provided for pedestrian use. Vehicles parked on
pavements are a hazard to pedestrians, causing an obstruction which may result in
them having to step off the pavement onto the highway, putting themselves in
danger. They are also a hazard by restricting the width of the pavement making it
difficult for someone with a pushchair or wheelchair to pass safely. Driving on and off
the pavement also causes damage to the surface (broken paving slabs etc.) as
pavements are not constructed to the same standard as the carriageway. Broken or
uneven paving slabs or damaged tarmac can cause pedestrians to trip and fall.
CEOs do not have the powers to deal with pavement or footway parking unless there
are waiting restrictions (yellow lines) on the highway adjacent to the pavement.
Where there are waiting restrictions, a PCN can be issued as the vehicle would be
parking in contravention of a traffic order. Waiting restrictions cover the highway from
the centre of the highway to the building line. If there is no building line, CEOs will be
advised on the exact extent of the public highway.
The Council and the police work in partnership to deal with obstruction and other
parking issues throughout the county of Dorset. The police can issue fines (Fixed
Penalty Notices) to vehicles causing an unnecessary obstruction either on the road
or on pavements."

https://www.dorsetforyou.com/media/156999/DCC-Parking-Policy-Part-1---July-2012-with-amendments/pdf/DCC_Parking_Policy_Part_1_-_July_2012_with_amendments.pdf

Why no have a look at your council's website to see if they've published their policy? Or ring your council - they must have a department that deals with parking as well - or get in touch with your local councillor.

SevenOfNine

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

There are houses on the opposite side of the street

How does this pavement parking affect you?

JustAnotherSaver

SevenOfNine wrote: »

How does this pavement parking affect you?

I was about to answer that question but really, why is that question you ask even important?

Truth is, it isn't. It does affect me actually but why should i go on to explain why as why is irrelevant.

Let's say the other end house has a disabled person in a wheel chair & they want to get to their house. They'd have to wheelchair on the road to get round as there'd be no other way.

Why is irrelevant.

There isn't room for them to park on the road, but there is room for them to park closer to the road which while it wouldn't enable a wheelchair or pram to go past, it would make room for 1 person to walk past on the right side of the pavement.

SevenOfNine

You've answered it!

Actually, I used to work in our local Council dept which dealt with 'all things parking & parking offence related'. I was merely curious as to whether the method of parking affected you directly or whether you were championing the cause for pushchairs & wheelchair users (nothing wrong with that, but we would avoid getting involved in any personal vendetta you may have).

If you'd phoned our dept I'd probably have asked the same question, along with "how/where do you park, how do others in the street park". I'd probably have advised you that IF anything could be done it would most likely NOT just be directed at the one house with the driveway you seem to have targetted.

Elsewhere #28 has given you a good answer, though I've a feeling that in my area nowadays the Police may have handed the local Council a bit more power regarding this issue (obstruction). The reason I think that is because I know for a fact that there is a particular road in my town, located close to a school & church where selfish parkers are routinely 'ticketed'..............a local Councillor lives in that street! He'd have the power (albeit misused somewhat) to get a Council Parking Control Officer to stick one on, but not the Police.