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  • Huzzah for common sense

    Don't forget though that it's the lower orders who take up all the police and emergency service time with their fighting, stealing and drinking so anyone earning under 80k should be charged double ;-)

    Vote Conservative, what what
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    "Don't feed the troll" is the only thing that comes to mind...
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,094 Forumite
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    how do you deal with the people who have no intention of working
    One option is to make them work (or withdraw and benefits).
    So assuming they are able then they can pick up the rubbish, sweep the streets, cut the grass, maybe take the tea round in hospitals.
    One issue with this is that you'd need a high level of supervision, so when you price in the supervision it's more expensive than paying people minimum wage (although arguable fairer).

    Another option is to reduce their benefits to subsistence levels and lower standard.
    For example adults have to share accomodation and not get private accomodation.
    I'd be all for having shared facilities for the long term unemployed although I do believe we should also give people every help to get a job.
    It's not intended as a punishment - it's simply the level of benefit they are entitled to.
  • Mallotum_X
    Mallotum_X Posts: 2,591 Forumite
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    i earn a low salary. I am just looking out for my richer fellow citizens and the grossly unfair tax levied on them.

    Everyone uses the same facilities, so we should all pay the same for them.

    why should someone "rich" pay more for the army, for example, than someone "poor"? Do they not both get the same protection and same use? The only justification is "because they can afford to" - which isn't right. Otherwise, go back to square one where every product costs more or less depending on your salary. It's madness.

    How would you cope with the massive increase in the amount of tax you need to pay?
  • wiogs
    wiogs Posts: 2,744 Forumite
    What should those who are left handed be treated differently?

    Or am I missing something?
  • the top 3000 taxpayers in this country pay more than the bottom 9 million tax payers. How can that be right???
  • Mallotum_X
    Mallotum_X Posts: 2,591 Forumite
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    the top 3000 taxpayers in this country pay more than the bottom 9 million tax payers. How can that be right???

    erm because they extract the most benefit from the country...

    Anyway my earlier question, how will you personally cope with a massive rise in how much tax you have to pay.

    Lets say we now equalise the bottom 9 million so they pay the same as the top.

    Where will the missing tax come from to pay for services, what will happen to the economy when thousands are unable to pay for anything as they are paying over 100% tax?


    How about you actually work though your argument to explain to us all how it would actually work in practice?
  • wotsthat wrote: »
    This is just a wild guess but do you earn closer to £100k than £20k?

    £100K with the mental capacity demonstrated? More likely to be a child...
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    the top 3000 taxpayers in this country pay more than the bottom 9 million tax payers. How can that be right???

    Simple solution - pay them less and they're taxed less!
    I can't believe nobody thought of that before :)
    The money could be given to those who earn less - so they'd pay more tax. See, it works!
  • bsms1147
    bsms1147 Posts: 2,277 Forumite
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    A similar argument...

    Why should someone earning more money pay 40% tax when someone who ears less money pays 20%? After all the person earning more would already be paying more in taxes even at 20% tax, by virtue of them earning more.

    So why should they pay proportionately more?
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