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Moral not to turn up at hotel booking?

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  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    PaulC5 wrote: »
    I have no intention of getting out of my legal obligation, I thought (and how wrong was I to think of that) they weren’t able to take payment now I’ve got different card details and thought (again how stupid of me) I could re-book at a lower price and it be ok.

    Sorry, but that was entirely your intention. You made an agreement with someone (call that a legal obligation, if you will), now you want to get out of that agreement by preventing them from taking the payment you'd already agreed.

    It would be like paying for a car with a cheque then cancelling the cheque before it was cashed.

    If you plan *had* worked, the hotel would have been left out of pocket so you could save some cash. I'm fairly shocked you had to ask if this is moral, to be honest.
  • PaulC5
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    Idiophreak wrote: »
    Sorry, but that was entirely your intention. You made an agreement with someone (call that a legal obligation, if you will), now you want to get out of that agreement by preventing them from taking the payment you'd already agreed.

    It would be like paying for a car with a cheque then cancelling the cheque before it was cashed.

    If you plan *had* worked, the hotel would have been left out of pocket so you could save some cash. I'm fairly shocked you had to ask if this is moral, to be honest.


    Im not purposefully preventing them from taking payment, I never cancelled my card because I didn’t want them to take the payment.

    I thought (Again how stupid of me) that because the card details I gave them no longer exist that they wouldn’t be able to take the money and they would therefore cancel my booking. I could then re-book at the lower price.

    Sorry if I sounded like some kind of ‘con-man’ but if you were as “stupid” as me then that theory would of worked but as I’ve already humiliated myself in not knowing how credit cards work then what more can I say.

    Have they not technically broken the agreement as part of the deal was for them to take full payment upfront. They haven’t and in doing so the price has gone up due to the exchange rate.
  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    PaulC5 wrote: »
    Im not purposefully preventing them from taking payment, I never cancelled my card because I didn’t want them to take the payment.

    I thought (Again how stupid of me) that because the card details I gave them no longer exist that they wouldn’t be able to take the money and they would therefore cancel my booking. I could then re-book at the lower price.

    Sorry if I sounded like some kind of ‘con-man’ but if you were as “stupid” as me then that theory would of worked but as I’ve already humiliated myself in not knowing how credit cards work then what more can I say.

    Have they not technically broken the agreement as part of the deal was for them to take full payment upfront. They haven’t and in doing so the price has gone up due to the exchange rate.

    If you really believe you've been disadvantaged by them failing to stick to the terms of your agreement, then yes...you could tell them you consider they're in breech of your contract and you want to call the whole thing off. In practice, I suspect this outcome will be difficult to achieve.

    Out of interest, what did you think would happen to the room they'd reserved for you if they did cancel your booking as you expected?

    I imagine they'd have to sell it again at the new, going rate - £300 less than they'd originally got for it, making them £300 worse off.

    It's not unreasonable that things cost more the earlier you book them...it's how most of the industry works. They get more money, you get the security of knowing your holiday is sorted well in advance. You were obviously happy with this arrangement at the time of booking...If you wanted to pay last minute prices, you should have waited til the last minute to book....
  • blindman
    blindman Posts: 5,673 Forumite
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    PaulC5 wrote: »
    Will send them an email, it may cause some confusion as it’s a hotel in Phuket and there English wasn’t best in the confirmation email I received.

    Oh the irony:cool:
  • You should not even entertain the idea of a free ride and pay what is due, If you try and do a slippery move they will get the funds anyway as stated above.


    Do the right thing and advise to the facts about your card and stop looking for a free lunch.
  • aaroncaz
    aaroncaz Posts: 5,242 Forumite
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    You should not even entertain the idea of a free ride and pay what is due, If you try and do a slippery move they will get the funds anyway as stated above.


    Do the right thing and advise to the facts about your card and stop looking for a free lunch.



    What free ride? The OP was just trying to save some money not get it for free!!!!!! Why shouldn't he consider that especially when payment have not even been taken for the higher price!! Not like he had already paid and then the price dropped!
  • aaroncaz wrote: »
    What free ride? The OP was just trying to save some money not get it for free!!!!!! Why shouldn't he consider that especially when payment have not even been taken for the higher price!! Not like he had already paid and then the price dropped!



    He is basically looking at gaining a free stay what ever way you try to gloss it.
  • aaroncaz
    aaroncaz Posts: 5,242 Forumite
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    He is basically looking at gaining a free stay what ever way you try to gloss it.



    How is he? He will still be paying, just a cheaper price............really sometimes on this forum there is a few ppl with " holier than thou" attitudes, no need for it.
  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    aaroncaz wrote: »
    What free ride? The OP was just trying to save some money not get it for free!!!!!! Why shouldn't he consider that especially when payment have not even been taken for the higher price!! Not like he had already paid and then the price dropped!

    ...but he's *agreed* to pay the higher price already. Whether they've taken the money or not is neither here nor there.

    If he doesn't think it's fair that the price has dropped (I really don't know why he'd think that) then he can ask the hotel if they'll drop the price to match the new one...But trying to deliberately default on payment just to save some cash really isn't the way forward.
  • aaroncaz
    aaroncaz Posts: 5,242 Forumite
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    Idiophreak wrote: »
    ...but he's *agreed* to pay the higher price already. Whether they've taken the money or not is neither here nor there.

    If he doesn't think it's fair that the price has dropped (I really don't know why he'd think that) then he can ask the hotel if they'll drop the price to match the new one...But trying to deliberately default on payment just to save some cash really isn't the way forward.



    That's your opinion, fair enough but he is not after a " free ride" in my opinion.
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