Advice about solving noise urgently needed

Davesnave

Procrastinator333 wrote: »

Another suggestion for you - our house is quite a noisy one with a 3 year old and a 3 month old. So we use noise makers. You can get them from Amazon.

Hmmmmm....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=party+noise+makers&!!!!!googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=23547026672&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14955768152287693111&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_644t3x4x0a_b
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Perhaps you mean this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electric-Ambient-Background-Relaxation-Masking/dp/B00LJBS7WW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416424398&sr=8-2&keywords=ambient+sound

Procrastinator333

Davesnave wrote: »

Hmmmmm....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=party+noise+makers&!!!!!googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=23547026672&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14955768152287693111&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_644t3x4x0a_b
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:rotfl:

The ones we have actually look a lot like an alarm clock. There are 20 or so different sounds and you can change the volume. The "fan" type noise works best for us. It did cost something like £40. But to be honest, the amount of extra sleep we have had from it, it was worth 10 times that.


Sorry OP, I'm out of ideas then! Hopefully someone can suggest something else for you.

nubbins

Hi MK,

Many years ago I lived with a girlfriend who had a HA place above a Londis shop. Every morning around 5am we would get woken up by a the sound of a newspaper van putting newspapers into a metal filing cabinet screwed into the wall underneath the flat, it created a horrible boom type sound that almost vibrated around the whole flat. The long and short of it was that we moaned and kicked up a stink and in the end they got a sound measurement device and put it in the flat for a few days after which they ordered the box to be removed.

I would not put up with some "computer says no" letter from these associations, they will do anything to find an easy way out but if you delve a little deeper most of them have noise pollution procedures. I know how bad these things can affect your way or life so dont give in.

Heres a noise pollution thingy I found on one HA's website

http://www.bury.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2112

sniggings

I feel for you, remember you can go back on the housing list,something better may come up.

Before, trying to sound proof your ceiling, paying for soundproof underlay for upstairs would be far cheaper, and probably a better result too, if that doesn't work then consider what can be done to your ceiling.

MJK4711

Thanks everyone for your comments.

I think I might go back to the Housing Association as Nubbins suggests.

When the children jump off the furniture the noise is so loud you would never be able to block it out with a fan. It literally sounds like a bomb has gone off.

My neighbours know that the running and jumping (especially) is unbearable to me but I can hear them in the same room as the children and it goes on for hours. I know that kids will be kids, as I said previously I was a registered childminder but, and I am sure you would agree with this Gordon Hose, if you knew that your children running and jumping off of furniture was affecting your neighbour then I would do my best to discourage it. Even maybe make a game out of not doing it.

I hear loads of noise from upstairs and I can live with most of it, but the persistent thundering and deafening bangs are just unbearable.

The other downside is that because of my health (brain tumour) I hardly ever leave the flat so I have it round me 24/7.

I was told by the Council that I had to take this flat or I would be struck off the Housing Register. At my interview with the Housing Association I explained all about my health etc before I moved in.

It just doesn't seem fair that mine and my elderly neighbours (who also had no choice but to move in) pleas are being ignored.

My quality of life is being dictated by the family above me. When I wake up, when I sleep, when I can relax and watch a bit of tv (if at all).

I am coping fine with my health at the moment. I am still able to work (albeit from home) but I will admit sometimes it is a struggle and this is obviously not helping.

My Housing Association told me to report it to Environmental Health which I did, in the hope they would install sound monitors. They said that they could not entertain it as the noise was from children.

I think noise pollution is exactly that, whether it's loud music, DIY or children and it should be treated equally.

Oh well there's no point keep whinging about it. It just seems a shame my neighbours can't just try and exercise a bit of control to help matters. Bearing in mind their bedroom windows are right above my back garden and I am very conscious of not making a noise especially late at night. If friends come round and go outside to smoke for instance.

It was the Housing Association's decision to put a young family above me and I think they should accept responsibility for that decision considering they knew my circumstances.

JustinR1979

If you made as much noise as them maybe they would realise how bad it is?
Have you had them in your house while kids jump about?
I sympathise with you, I'm bad for noisy people, no consideration.
All the best

MJK4711

Yes, the father has witnessed it. Sometimes I would love to own an air horn

Gordon_Hose

OK, have you witnessed the children jumping off the sofa?

I would not stop my child from running around and playing. I would discourage jumping off furniture, in fact, I do already and I live in an end terrace. It's not good for the furniture. However, you can't stop upstairs Mum from letting her kids jump around/off furniture.

Either way, children making noise while playing is not considered a nuisance.

I have lived in flats myself, two in fact. In one we could hear them having their morning 'hows yer father' at 6am every day. Yet if we closed the front door (gently) when leaving the flat he'd be down moaning at me. That was until I started cheering him on during his vinegar stoke, his whinging still stopped.

The second flat had concrete floors, so there was very little noise pollution apart from people slamming front doors on the same landing.

My point being, you have to expect noise when living in a flat. Obviously playing music or shouting arguing at 1am is out of order, but kids playing and jumping around (during the day) is, unfortunately, not going to be classed a s a nuisance, regardless of your opinion on upstairs Mum's parenting skills.

I feel for you, I really do. Your best bet is either getting the council to move you or getting them to install additional soundproofing.

Furts

MJK4711 wrote: »

Thanks everyone for your comments.

I think I might go back to the Housing Association as Nubbins suggests.

When the children jump off the furniture the noise is so loud you would never be able to block it out with a fan. It literally sounds like a bomb has gone off.

My neighbours know that the running and jumping (especially) is unbearable to me but I can hear them in the same room as the children and it goes on for hours. I know that kids will be kids, as I said previously I was a registered childminder but, and I am sure you would agree with this Gordon Hose, if you knew that your children running and jumping off of furniture was affecting your neighbour then I would do my best to discourage it. Even maybe make a game out of not doing it.

I hear loads of noise from upstairs and I can live with most of it, but the persistent thundering and deafening bangs are just unbearable.

The other downside is that because of my health (brain tumour) I hardly ever leave the flat so I have it round me 24/7.

I was told by the Council that I had to take this flat or I would be struck off the Housing Register. At my interview with the Housing Association I explained all about my health etc before I moved in.

It just doesn't seem fair that mine and my elderly neighbours (who also had no choice but to move in) pleas are being ignored.

My quality of life is being dictated by the family above me. When I wake up, when I sleep, when I can relax and watch a bit of tv (if at all).

I am coping fine with my health at the moment. I am still able to work (albeit from home) but I will admit sometimes it is a struggle and this is obviously not helping.

My Housing Association told me to report it to Environmental Health which I did, in the hope they would install sound monitors. They said that they could not entertain it as the noise was from children.

I think noise pollution is exactly that, whether it's loud music, DIY or children and it should be treated equally.

Oh well there's no point keep whinging about it. It just seems a shame my neighbours can't just try and exercise a bit of control to help matters. Bearing in mind their bedroom windows are right above my back garden and I am very conscious of not making a noise especially late at night. If friends come round and go outside to smoke for instance.

It was the Housing Association's decision to put a young family above me and I think they should accept responsibility for that decision considering they knew my circumstances.

Have you considered the lateral thinking approach to this problem? Build up a rapport with your local councillor, then discuss your health, and any disabilities, at a meeting in your flat timed for a slot when it is likely to be noisy. If it is not noisy, request some follow up meetings. The councillor will have to oblige, for you are unable to meet them.

A good councillor will get action - they know which lever to pull, which button to press, and whose backside needs kicking into action.

MJK4711

Thanks for the advice guys.

I haven't witnessed the children jumping off the furniture. It was their father that told me this was what they were doing when we were speaking about the noise.

I expected noise when I moved in and I hear it daily. Screaming, shouting, doors slamming etc etc. All of this I can tolerate. It's just the running and jumping (especially) that is unbearable.

They are out till all hours some nights (till 1am weekends, 10.30 midweek) so you can imagine the noise I hear when they come in. Having said that at least I haven't had to put up with it whilst they're out.

You've all given me some good advice and I thank you for that. I need to get back on the phone and do some more letter writing. It's just that after a year of this I feel absolutely exhausted from it all.