DD furious with gym teacher

rpc

tyllwyd wrote: »

I don't know if it's financially possible for her family, but would a private MRI scan be possible?

The NHS may well not treat based on a private scan. Such "top-up" care is frowned on.

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

The granddaughter has been using crutches long term with just a note from mum - no formal diagnosis, treatment etc... That must look a bit strange to the teacher.

That some problems are hard to diagnose (NHS inefficiency notwithstanding) shouldn't be a surprise to a professional. The crutches are simply a stop-gap on the way to a formal diagnosis and treatment.

In any case, the correct response if this "strange" situation is suspect is to question the parents and not to order the child off their crutches.

duchy wrote: »

Yes it could be a criminal offence -endangerment is criminal not civil law.

Citation please.

Reckless and culpable conduct (aka endangerment) is a Scots Law offence. Not in England and Wales.

Reckless behaviour can replace mens rea, but the reckless behaviour is not the offence in that case. So you still need an offence to prosecute.

Person_one

Just a thought, who gave her the crutches? Was it the GP? What was the reasoning with no diagnosis?

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Person_one wrote: »

Just a thought, who gave her the crutches? Was it the GP? What was the reasoning with no diagnosis?

I think (but not sure meritaten could clarify) the orthopedic registrar or the head physio at the hospital who gave her the crutches with instruction to stay off it as much as possible till the consultant reviews the case and has ordered a MRI of the ankle to diagnose the issue's my niece is experiencing with her ankle.


for those a little confused to as how I would know..... meritaten is my mum and this is my niece were talking about.

lostinrates

rpc wrote: »

The NHS may well not treat based on a private scan. Such "top-up" care is frowned on.




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I'm not in Wales but I have a mixture of private and NHs care.. The interaction now is VASTLY better than ten years ago ( I have a chronic condition and associated health problems) . In the last two years I've had 2 MRIs and a few of other types of imaging.....ALL privately, all available to other private consultants and my NHS GP and who ever else needs it. Infact, one consultant wanted one set of MRI scans and another wanted another set, so the GP asked the second private consultant if I could have both done at the same time rather than having a third MRI session.

Tbh, if I had such a delay to see a consultant in this situation I'd forgo Christmas spending if necessary to get the child in front of a consultant ASAP if there was no other way.

We've heard about the delays in Wales in health care, but this must be terrifying for you all. I feel that while the school issue IS very important the primary one is the healthcare one.

meritaten

ok - we offered DD the money to pay privately for a scan, but she refused. The reason being that the consultant is now back at work and she is hoping the head physio can get DG1 the referral for a scan rather than waiting for a 'physical' appointment.
Also - you cant really mix private and NHS care here. so if she had the scan and diagnosis and it required surgery - then that surgery would HAVE to be done privately. I couldn't even begin to imagine the cost!

lostinrates

meritaten wrote: »

Also - you cant really mix private and NHS care here. so if she had the scan and diagnosis and it required surgery - then that surgery would HAVE to be done privately. I couldn't even begin to imagine the cost!

What you can't do , absolutely correctly, is queue jump.

So once you have a diagnosis if you need surgery you go on NHs waiting list. You CAnNOT be refused treatment on NHS, but it would be wrong to expect to queue jump because you've paid for just part of the service. What it might do is highlight this is a serious issue that cannot afford to wait.

For your own interest you might ask your dd how much the op would cost privately. Makes you appreciate the value of NHs, and the impact of things like paying for prescriptions , those of us able/ not exempt, can help ease the burden.

While typing it made me think It would me an interesting thing to see next to the spending disincentive tool......how many cigarettes would pay for routine ops:eek::eek:

gettingtheresometime

I must admit I have a quasi sort of private health care.

I pay about £8 per month and if the NHS wait for diagnosis/treatment is too long then I can have it done privately. There are certain exclusions but in a case like the OP's then I would have no hesitation in going private.

northerntwo1

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

I think (but not sure meritaten could clarify) the orthopedic registrar or the head physio at the hospital who gave her the crutches with instruction to stay off it as much as possible till the consultant reviews the case and has ordered a MRI of the ankle to diagnose the issue's my niece is experiencing with her ankle.


for those a little confused to as how I would know..... meritaten is my mum and this is my niece were talking about.

Did they give instructions as to weightbearing. None WB, partial at 20%, 10% what was said. It's highly unusual for long term crutches without usage being given. How can her physio work with her if there is no diagnosis? Walking a few steps has caused her pain so god only knows what the physio is putting her through.

Definitely pay for a private scan though if they had any concerns they'd have ordered the scan as an emergency, so the consultant doesn't seem to realise how bad it is either if she can't walk a short distance without such after problems. Does she use crutches all the time? How can she manage stairs?

Ames

I'm having physio without a definite diagnosis, I have a set of symptoms which are being treated whilst tests are ongoing. They've been trying to figure me out for ten years now, not giving help for that long would be cruel. So it seems perfectly reasonable for doctors to be treating Meri's GD for the symptoms and giving help and advice to prevent things getting worse (the crutches and saying not to do PE) without knowing 100% what the underlying problem is.

northerntwo1

Ames wrote: »

I'm having physio without a definite diagnosis, I have a set of symptoms which are being treated whilst tests are ongoing. They've been trying to figure me out for ten years now, not giving help for that long would be cruel. So it seems perfectly reasonable for doctors to be treating Meri's GD for the symptoms and giving help and advice to prevent things getting worse (the crutches and saying not to do PE) without knowing 100% what the underlying problem is.

Your physio must have an idea of limitations though. Are you suggesting all physio is with crutches only?