Parkine Eye celebrate their aniversary at a Burton on trent Hospital

nigelbb

The hospital needs to be more creative in their thinking rather than accept the status quo. There used to be a terrible parking problem at the Norfolk & Norwich hospital until a 3rd party built a private car park on land adjacent to the hospital. Their charges are in line with those on the hospital car park (I presume that this was a necessary agreement before the hospital allowed the access road to be built).

There appears to be plenty of room for more parking spaces in this photo if they sacrificed the grass & young trees. http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/HOSPITAL-anniversary-Parking-Eye-Queen-s-Hospital/story-23876190-detail/story.html

nobbysn*ts

nigelbb wrote: »

The hospital needs to be more creative in their thinking rather than accept the status quo. There used to be a terrible parking problem at the Norfolk & Norwich hospital until a 3rd party built a private car park on land adjacent to the hospital. Their charges are in line with those on the hospital car park (I presume that this was a necessary agreement before the hospital allowed the access road to be built).

There appears to be plenty of room for more parking spaces in this photo if they sacrificed the grass & young trees. http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/HOSPITAL-anniversary-Parking-Eye-Queen-s-Hospital/story-23876190-detail/story.html

Be nothing nicer than sitting on a ward with a nice diesel 4 x 4 running just outside the window. Those spaces are there for a purpose, life doesn't revolve around parking for everyone.
(Although I suppose if you have a diesel 4 x 4, there nothing to stop you parking there anyway), and I must admit, I prefer the hospitals policy of expanding treatment areas, not expanding the car park instead, simply because there is a belief you need a barrier around one big space, rather than being able to use the small otherwise lost spaces.
That's actually creative thinking, not simply 'the only way to park must be a barrier controlled big area', so everyone has to walk miles.
Or perhaps another solution would be to close the hospital for a few months, and build a multi storey car park where the existing car park is, with a nice barrier on the exit?
I'll let you email them that one.

nigelbb

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

Or perhaps another solution would be to close the hospital for a few months, and build a multi storey car park where the existing car park is, with a nice barrier on the exit?
I'll let you email them that one.

Building an underground car park shouldn't disrupt things so much.

Presumably the basic problem is that the site is not adequate for requirements. Either it's an old hospital in an urban setting that doesm't have sufficient space or it's a new hospital that has been badly planned without sufficient car parking.

The_Slithy_Tove

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

I must admit, I prefer the hospitals policy of expanding treatment areas, not expanding the car park instead.

I fail to see why the ability to get to a hospital for treatment/work/visits is less important than the treatment itself. It's all part of the same package. Hospital parking policies fail to consider this. They can spout all they like about encouraging people to take alternative transport, but that fails to take into account poor location for public transport, shift workers, the fact that sick people may not want to take the bus to hospital, sheer inconvenience of public transport. And don't forget, having family etc. be able to visit you in hospital is a very important part of the healing process.

nobbysn*ts

The reality is, it's where it is.

And while it's very convenient to focus on the need to relocate hospitals to areas with vast expanses for car parking in the surrounding areas, that does tend to miss the fact the majority arrive by taxi, ambulance, public transport, ring and ride, and the majority would rather have a functioning hospital ward than a larger car park.
Until you assess the needs of all, it's doubtful you'll convince the majority the driver needs more facilities than the patient.
Particularly as parking isn't a problem anymore, the only issue from the patients point of view is the billing system, but the response from here is always the car parking needs to be centralised simply to put in barriers, which is an archaic view, considering there isn't the archaic centralised services that used to be in by gone days. Even stranger is the suggestion to build underground car parks, or simply closing the hospital and building a new one entirely, as the site is simply considered wrong.

nigelbb

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

that does tend to miss the fact the majority arrive by taxi, ambulance, public transport, ring and ride,

Majority of who? Inpatients? Outpatients? Staff? Visitors? I'll wager that the majority of people going to that hospital site for whatever reason travel by car.

nobbysn*ts

nigelbb wrote: »

Majority of who? Inpatients? Outpatients? Staff? Visitors? I'll wager that the majority of people going to that hospital site for whatever reason travel by car.

I'm sure the numbers must be somewhere, but I'd accept the wager in the meantime.

BenefitMaster

The_Deep wrote: »

PP's piece

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/parkingeye-sue-parent-of-seriously-ill.html

must surely be libellous, why does Miss Ledson not act?

Because the truth is a defence against an allegation of libel.

Anyway, as any fule kno, Pranky doesn't live in England, and the blog is published in the USA.

Half_way

There are some serious issues with the parking system at Burton, so much so that the plain language commission has published an article detailing the many failings at that site by Parking Eye.

I Was in Burton a few months ago, and visited a shopping center/asda Car park this car park had a simple system, before leaving you put our reg number in and the machine told you how much to pay.

The system at Burton Hospital requires you to remember what time you arrived then pay the appropriate amount, or else Rachel Ledson and her cronies will be out to get you.
One of the Key issues here is that with it being a Hospital the last thing on many visitors minds will be noting down what time they arrived, especially if they are in a state of stress, and as a result people will either over pay, or under pay.
If the system told people how much they should pay, as in the one at the Shopping centre then some of the issues will be solved.
But that would mean that fewer people would be getting a letter from Parking eye, followed by the usual bulshit they send out, or that people would be paying the hospital the correct amount for parking

As it is the whole system appears to be set up to prey on the vulnerable, and im amazed that this is allowed to continue - if anything whoever signed the contract with parking eye at the Hospital as well as the Cheif executive/management etc should all be removed from their positions for gross misconduct, and the parking eye system should be disabled via a non harmful method such as bags over the cameras to prevent anyone else falling victim on this site.

Also according to the article by the plain language commission the main car park is barrier controlled.

I would suggest that anyone who thinks the system is fair and Nobysn*ts takes a read of this http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/plcdev/app/public/system/pdf_files/files/000/000/191/original/QueensHospitalEd1copy.pdf

Coupon-mad

Half_way wrote: »

There are some serious issues with the parking system at Burton, so much so that the plain language commission has published an article detailing the many failings at that site by Parking Eye.

I Was in Burton a few months ago, and visited a shopping center/asda Car park this car park had a simple system, before leaving you put our reg number in and the machine told you how much to pay.

The system at Burton Hospital requires you to remember what time you arrived then pay the appropriate amount, or else Rachel Ledson and her cronies will be out to get you.
One of the Key issues here is that with it being a Hospital the last thing on many visitors minds will be noting down what time they arrived, especially if they are in a state of stress, and as a result people will either over pay, or under pay.
If the system told people how much they should pay, as in the one at the Shopping centre then some of the issues will be solved.
But that would mean that fewer people would be getting a letter from Parking eye, followed by the usual bulshit they send out, or that people would be paying the hospital the correct amount for parking

As it is the whole system appears to be set up to prey on the vulnerable, and im amazed that this is allowed to continue - if anything whoever signed the contract with parking eye at the Hospital as well as the Cheif executive/management etc should all be removed from their positions for gross misconduct, and the parking eye system should be disabled via a non harmful method such as bags over the cameras to prevent anyone else falling victim on this site.

Also according to the article by the plain language commission the main car park is barrier controlled.

I would suggest that anyone who thinks the system is fair and Nobysn*ts takes a read of this http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/plcdev/app/public/system/pdf_files/files/000/000/191/original/QueensHospitalEd1copy.pdf

So people appealing to POPLA could use that plain language commission article as ammo as well. Parking Eye should just get the Hell out of Hospital car parks; PE are a bloody pariah at the best of times but they are not a firm anyone should have let anywhere near vulnerable patients.