Christmas leave entitlement?

Takeaway_Addict

FBaby wrote: »

Ok, not fair, but unselfish. Yes, everyone has good reason to want to be off for Christmas, but my view is that none are as important as spending your time with young children. I am talking about priorities though, not right. It wouldn't right if the family with young children always systematically get the day off whilst others work every single Christmas, but say a 2:1 seems reasonable, but I totally agree that it should be about individual choice, not for the employers to make that decision.

If you don't want the employer to make the decision to be fair to all staff then you shouldn't work for that employer or even better, be self employed.

2.1 is not reasonable.

Poppy9

FBaby wrote: »

Ok, not fair, but unselfish. Yes, everyone has good reason to want to be off for Christmas, but my view is that none are as important as spending your time with young children. I am talking about priorities though, not right. It wouldn't right if the family with young children always systematically get the day off whilst others work every single Christmas, but say a 2:1 seems reasonable, but I totally agree that it should be about individual choice, not for the employers to make that decision.

So what you are saying is that it's okay for parents with young children to be selfish but not for those without? Just because you feel it's important to be home with children at Christmas doesn't make those who also want to be home with family/friends selfish.

You need to learn what real priorities are if the most important thing to you is seeing children opening presents. There are far more important things in life. Thousands of parents don't get to see their children open their presents on Xmas morning or the children do the unselfish thing and wait till their parents are home because anyone who works in Health care or Emergency services will usually have to work Xmas day.

My OH didn't have Christmas ruined or have bad memories because his mother worked. It was still Christmas!

theoretica

I know many children, and adults too, who cope perfectly well with the concept the their birthday is on an inconvenient day this year so it is celebrated on a different day (perhaps a Saturday instead of a Monday). So working on the 25th need not mean there isn't a day for Christmas.

notanewuser

theoretica wrote: »

I know many children, and adults too, who cope perfectly well with the concept the their birthday is on an inconvenient day this year so it is celebrated on a different day (perhaps a Saturday instead of a Monday). So working on the 25th need not mean there isn't a day for Christmas.

Exactly my point.

doodlesmum

elsien wrote: »

You might be surprised. I used to do a questionnaire asking for preferences, and in one team most of them were happy to work Christmas day if they got New Year's Eve off. A few people preferred their family Christmas gathering on Christmas Eve or Boxing day. And those with kids usually wanted the morning off to do the prezzie opening and would come in for the evening, whereas the rest of us happily worked the morning then went home to get !!!!ed.
I just used to say you've got to work some of it, so pick the ones you're happiest doing and if you're not being fair to colleagues I'll have to put you down for others. Worked for us - people could swap amongst themselves if they weren't happy as long as all the shifts were covered.

Exactly right.I have worked in the care industry for last 22 years ,I am now at senior level.My children range from 6, 7 and 18.I have always worked Christmas day up till lunch and also will do New years day .I wouldn't dream of expecting to get preferential treatment because I have children. We do much the same everyone does their bit.The care industry doesn't stop because it is Christmas day ,I accepted that when I decided I wanted to work in care.