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Advice on parking rights on an unadopted road.

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  • DTDfanBoy
    DTDfanBoy Posts: 1,704 Forumite
    edited 19 October 2014 at 10:44PM
    artbaron wrote: »
    No, clearly I'm not saying that, don't be a tool. And it's not true that it's only a dispute if officially recorded. Do some research on the matter before you comment. Now if the OP talks to his neighbours and they say, "OK, we won't park there again," then clearly there's no dispute. But I can't imagine that's going to happen. Sending a letter is without question recognised as a dispute and would need to be declared when selling, even if the neighbours had stopped parking there immediately.

    What complete rubbish, have you even read what you've written :eek:

    Scenario 1 :

    Ask neighbour in person if they'd stop parking over their drive, neighbour says " No worries, we'll not park there again " = No Dispute

    Scenario 2 :

    Write to neighbour and ask if they'd stop parking over their drive, neighbour responds by letter " No worries, we'll not park there again " = A dispute which has to be declared forever more :rotfl:
  • artbaron wrote: »
    No, clearly I'm not saying that, don't be a tool. And it's not true that it's only a dispute if officially recorded. Do some research on the matter before you comment. Now if the OP talks to his neighbours and they say, "OK, we won't park there again," then clearly there's no dispute. But I can't imagine that's going to happen. Sending a letter is without question recognised as a dispute and would need to be declared when selling, even if the neighbours had stopped parking there immediately.

    Is there any need to be rude?
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Who owns the road itself? I own the freehold of the private road in front of my house and there are rights to pass/repass, but if somebody parked there I could wave my plot plan at them and say "get orf moi land"
  • artbaron wrote: »
    No, clearly I'm not saying that, don't be a tool. And it's not true that it's only a dispute if officially recorded. Do some research on the matter before you comment. Now if the OP talks to his neighbours and they say, "OK, we won't park there again," then clearly there's no dispute. But I can't imagine that's going to happen. Sending a letter is without question recognised as a dispute and would need to be declared when selling, even if the neighbours had stopped parking there immediately.

    More absolute bollocks there.

    The best bit of guff amongst that rubbish is the final sentence. Even if a single, informal letter about parking was considered a dispute (and you'd be doing pretty darn well finding a solicitor and judge to get that past), if they 'stopped parking there immediately' the dispute would be resolved amicably, and no longer require disclosure.
  • artbaron
    artbaron Posts: 7,285 Forumite
    DTDfanBoy wrote: »
    What complete rubbish, have you even read what you've written :eek:

    Scenario 1 :

    Ask neighbour in person if they'd stop parking over their drive, neighbour says " No worries, we'll not park there again " = No Dispute

    Scenario 2 :

    Write to neighbour and ask if they'd stop parking over their drive, neighbour responds by letter " No worries, we'll not park there again " = A dispute which has to be declared forever more :rotfl:

    Yes, you got it right. Well done. It amazes me that people like yourself would rather be ignorant than do a bit of research. Yes, it is generally the case that if you feel that an issue is important enough to raise through formal channels, regardless of the outcome, it is important enough to be declared a dispute.

    For example
    What constitutes a dispute is open to interpretation but in general, if you’ve had to contact a neighbour in writing, or complain to the council or another authority about them, then the dispute will have to be declared.
    - http://www.problemneighbours.co.uk/what-you-have-declare-about-neighbours-when-selling.html
  • artbaron
    artbaron Posts: 7,285 Forumite
    More absolute bollocks there.

    The best bit of guff amongst that rubbish is the final sentence. Even if a single, informal letter about parking was considered a dispute (and you'd be doing pretty darn well finding a solicitor and judge to get that past), if they 'stopped parking there immediately' the dispute would be resolved amicably, and no longer require disclosure.

    Clearly you haven't the brains to note that not declaring resolved disputes can leave you open to legal action, as can not declaring anything that might lead to a dispute in future. In this case, if the neighbour routinely blocked the driveway then a solicitor would very likely recommend this be logged as a dispute even if no contact was ever made with them.
  • artbaron wrote: »
    Clearly you haven't the brains to note that not declaring resolved disputes can leave you open to legal action,

    Absolute garbage.

    In fact, the very link you posted refutes this.
    as can not declaring anything that might lead to a dispute in future. In this case,

    No, completely false again.
    if the neighbour routinely blocked the driveway then a solicitor would very likely recommend this be logged as a dispute even if no contact was ever made with them.

    No, a solicitor wouldn't, as there would be no dispute to declare.

    In your world, literally everyone is either In dispute or heading for dispute with their neighbour. Do you realise how ridiculous this sounds?

    You obviously have no idea what you're on about, yet see fit to fill the OPs head with this nonsense. Perhaps this, and the fact you also appear to have suggested some kind of vigilante reprisal in your first post, should suggest to the OP and anyone else in this situation that your advice isn't really worth anything other than a cheap laugh and a skim over.
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    The point I'm slightly surprised about is why is the road unadopted? Is it not part of the terms of the planning permission that once the houses are complete the road has to be constructed to an acceptable standard to then become adopted?
  • DTDfanBoy
    DTDfanBoy Posts: 1,704 Forumite
    artbaron wrote: »
    Yes, you got it right. Well done. It amazes me that people like yourself would rather be ignorant than do a bit of research. Yes, it is generally the case that if you feel that an issue is important enough to raise through formal channels, regardless of the outcome, it is important enough to be declared a dispute.

    For example

    - http://www.problemneighbours.co.uk/what-you-have-declare-about-neighbours-when-selling.html

    Unlike yourself I actually understand the definition of dispute, I'll give you a hint, without a disagreement between the two parties there isn't a dispute ;)

    Perhaps you should educate yourself instead of branding others ignorant :T
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    Hintza wrote: »
    The point I'm slightly surprised about is why is the road unadopted? Is it not part of the terms of the planning permission that once the houses are complete the road has to be constructed to an acceptable standard to then become adopted?

    Took more than 10 years for the council to adopt the roads on our estate.
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