UKPC - Parking in free carpark disabled

ndoody

ampersand wrote: »

ndoody - no reason for you not to be reading Newbies Stickies thoroughly[several times] now.

Well, yes, there was every reason...seeing as there was a known bug affecting this forum that meant the text was displayed as utter garbage in every post except for people asking "what is this garbage".

I'm only just starting to try and learn spanish, learning how to decode whatever language "i::o be::w::" is in is most certainly at the bottom of my lists of life priorities...

ndoody

Umkomaas wrote: »

And you've carefully scrutinised and assessed the signage against the requirements of the BPA CoP, Appendix B which places mandatory standards on signage?

Do they have entrance signs that meet precisely the CoP's standards?

As it happens, no I haven't...but I'm guessing we're going to assume that somewhere UKPC has failed to adhere to all of this guidance?

Ergo, the answer to my question is "yes it should still be left in". I see that it's written all points a,b,c,d,e should be left in no questions asked...but I had to ask the question.

Umkomaas

bigheadxx wrote: »

I think it is ridiculous that there can be twenty odd EMPTY disabled parking bays that you cannot park in and every other space in the car park is full.

And if everyone took that position there'd be no disabled parking spots for those not only in physical need, but with a legal entitlement to them. But you might just end up getting someone parking next to your car in the main car park trying to get their wheelchair out of their car, ending up making a bit of a mess of your door panel.

Then you'd definitely be on here with a real rage against inappropriate parking in disabled bays.

ampersand

op - if you won't /don't read fully, you'll miss key advice.

What was the last word in that bit you've quoted? - '.......now'

Present tense; you reply with past tense.

You are as welcome as all newbies to mse, but I don't think you spent quite a few hours helping combat the muck that infested the site throughout much of today.
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re:'I'm just [STRIKE]hear[/STRIKE]here to shout out against the real criminals of this world like UKPC.' -
so, do you intend to use the help that is freely given here or not?
Up to you.

Umkomaas

ndoody wrote: »

As it happens, no I haven't...but I'm guessing we're going to assume that somewhere UKPC has failed to adhere to all of this guidance?

Ergo, the answer to my question is "yes it should still be left in". I see that it's written all points a,b,c,d,e should be left in no questions asked...but I had to ask the question.

If you assume anything in this game, you're likely to miss out on the easy opportunities to win.

The onus is on the PPC, once you've raised an issue, to refute that with proof. Please don't go inadvertently doing their job for them. And the reality is, even 2 years down the line since PoFA 2012 changed the game, PPCs generally still haven't got to grips with signage requirements.

bigheadxx

Umkomaas wrote: »

And if everyone took that position there'd be no disabled parking spots for those not only in physical need, but with a legal entitlement to them. But you might just end up getting someone parking next to your car in the main car park trying to get their wheelchair out of their car, ending up making a bit of a mess of your door panel.

Then you'd definitely be on here with a real rage against inappropriate parking in disabled bays.

Not all disabled people are in wheelchairs.


There are always more disabled bays than are needed and in reality, if a disabled bay has been occupied by another disabled person then surely they can park in another bay or drive around for ten minutes like I have to? Perhaps some disabled bays should be kept the same size but be usable by all of us, might solve a lot of problems.

ndoody

Umkomaas wrote: »

And if everyone took that position there'd be no disabled parking spots for those not only in physical need, but with a legal entitlement to them. But you might just end up getting someone parking next to your car in the main car park trying to get their wheelchair out of their car, ending up making a bit of a mess of your door panel.

Then you'd definitely be on here with a real rage against inappropriate parking in disabled bays.

Some kind of balance in how many of each type of space are available wouldn't be a bad thing. It doesn't take a genius to poke their head in the car parks every now and then and see how many of the spaces go unused.

I absolutely understand the need for disabled spaces, for people who genuinely need them through some kind of incapacity. However "legal entitlement" grants the spaces to an army of shirkers; it's rare I see someone who isn't 100% able bodied pop out of a disabled space with a blue badge displayed.

Hell, my dad was once told he was eligible having only one eye - but has refused to apply as he is fully able bodied.

Umkomaas

bigheadxx wrote: »

Not all disabled people are in wheelchairs.


There are always more disabled bays than are needed and in reality, if a disabled bay has been occupied by another disabled person then surely they can park in another bay or drive around for ten minutes like I have to? Perhaps some disabled bays should be kept the same size but be usable by all of us, might solve a lot of problems.

Indeed, but the empty spaces now are because the vast majority of people respect the need to keep them clear for disabled people.

If you start to blur the lines, as per your suggestion, there'd be no holding back, and a pound to a penny there would be plenty more door panel dings than you can currently expect in a standard supermarket car park.

So just what kind of moderation would you put in place for a more relaxed approach that would prevent a feeding frenzy free-for-all on disabled parking spots?

How do you think PPCs sell their service to supermarkets?

ampersand

Do start a separate discussion Thread for Disabled Bay abuse/eligibility by all means.

op - are you wanting advice on your parking charge or not?

ndoody

ampersand wrote: »

so, do you intend to use the help that is freely given here or not?

Have posted the template in full via the UKPC website already. I guess I'll find out if they reply that I hadn't submitted it within the 14 days, and then may have to instate a clock reset through naming a driver.

However the letter received describes "Contesting this Parking Charge" and goes on to say "within 14 days (beginning with the day after this Notice is given)" and I can only assume that "this Notice" is the letter in which I hold in my hands.