Income Support for a Couple aged 17

rach_k

Check out the rules of their college. When I was in 6th form, it was part of our 'learning contract' that we could work up to 9 hours a week - this what the cut off point where the college decided more would affect studies too much. In uni, the limit we agreed to was 20 hours a week. Tell them to get jobs!

pmlindyloo

HappyMJ wrote: »

It's unlikely that they'll get anything at all if you are giving them money they won't get any income support. They as already said need to be estranged from their parents with no support at all.

Doesn't appear as simple as that.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/337570/dmgch20.pdf

20686 &20690

This says that giving them financial support does not mean that there is no estrangement.

However, they do have the ability to seek further evidence.

To be honest (and I know it really isn't a laughing matter) my daughter would be estranged if she chose to do this.

McKneff

I cant see a landlord touching them with a barge pole to be honest,


They are not old enough to be signing any sort of contract, they are minors.

missapril75

epitome wrote: »

If they have chosen to leave your household ....IS is only payable to youngsters if they are estranged from their parents.

HappyMJ wrote: »

They as already said need to be estranged from their parents with no support at all.

pmlindyloo wrote: »

Doesn't appear as simple as that.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/337570/dmgch20.pdf

20686 &20690
This says that giving them financial support does not mean that there is no estrangement.

Yes,, it's not necessarily as simple. But the way the OP describes it, any contact with them will result in a refusal unless an entirely different version comes out.

mikey_bach

They both should be totally estranged from their parent, when they make the claim the Under 18 officer will ring them and complete a proforma with them, This then goes to a SDM who will decide if they are entitled and then they decide the rate they will get paid. if entitled
By the sounds of it they are not estranged from their parernts at all, so would not meet the condition of entitlement unless as said a much different verion of events is given. Maybe they could get part time jobs to support themselves.

epitome

Well one of them appears to be estranged form his parents...

So I think if they get DWP to agree to that, they will get the £57 a week couple-rate for both of them.. ?

Spidernick

Oscar Wilde was certainly right when he said that 'youth is wasted on the young'!

mikey_bach

"as they chose to leave a comfortable home/lifestyle to live as they are."

the OP was willing to support the pair of them but they decided they didnt want this anymore.

If he is estranged from his parents, the DWP will ring his parents to see if they are still in receipt of CHB and CTC for him and ask the reasons why he left the family home, It will still go to an SDM to see what rate can be paid

All they can do is apply and see.

thorsoak

Maybe, OP, you have been too accomodating in accepting that at age 17, they are a "couple" living together, but being supported financially by you!

It sounds as if they have never learned the mantra "nothing in life is free" - so maybe they have got to have a tough lesson - STOP supporting them, stop shopping and cooking for them, doing their laundry, cleaning their room etc etc etc. And stop paying for telephone, restrict internet access.

Time for tough love!

Lozz

Thank you so much for the replies everyone, I am grateful.


Unfortunately it's a complicated situation, in that firstly they are both girls. DD's partner's parents refused to accept their relationship so she left home, unfortunately we felt we had no alternative but to offer a home. AFAIK nobody is receiving CB for her.


I asked her to enquire at college as to financial support for travel and the college apparently filled their heads with ideas of benefits and bursaries etc. Cue they wanted to move out. I told them the only way this would happen is if I said I was kicking them out and no way was I prepared to do that. Thereafter DD became so vile to me that eventually DH and DS threw them out. Unfortunately there is no open door due to the way DD treated me.


We are doing nothing but what SS have told us we have to, which is to support her to the tune of IS until she has sorted out what she has to. I was confused as the single/couple rate appears to be the same.


It appears that green grass is slowly becoming a nasty muddy colour already. I can only hope life lessons are being learned the hard way.


Thanks again everyone.


Lozz x


Edit to add they have no chance of a tenancy at all, they are in council B&B and apparently looking to be there for a long while yet!