Upgrading old Tumble Drier

alleycat`

Smiley_Dan wrote: »

Sure. First, I think you can enter your tariff...

The other concern is that energy is not the only important measure. One interesting measurement would be the power draw and how this varies during the cycle - this allows renewables etc use to be timed better. E.g. if it's sunny now but you know cloud is on the way in an hour or two, should you wait for tomorrow?

This does bring up some valid variables that may come into play and it's an interesting avenue of thought.

For a typical home i would assume that micro generation aren't currently the "norm" when they decide on what white appliance to purchase.

Still well worth a thought.

Smiley_Dan

No, still the kind of crap I think about though. I wonder whether one day standards may emerge where the power network in a house can actually transmit the current generation, export etc, so appliances can decide whether to turn on or not. That would require industry co-operation though, and most companies seem to want to build proprietary solutions (understandably).

matelodave

To be honest I'd rather buy three machines at £300 each rather than one that cost a grand or more.
We got a new dryer a couple of years ago after our old Hotpoint had died after 12 years. I agonised over getting a heatpump version but decided that the extra £150 to save a kwh or so per cycle wasn't really all that cost effective especially as it takes twice as long to do the drying (something my wife wouldn't tolerate).

We actually got an 8kg BEKO condenser dryer which pumps the condensate into the drain so there's no emptying of water containers - it does a an excellent job for £250 and I won't be heartbroken if it only lasts 5 years or so

Nada666

I picture multiple blazing summer days with a delightful warm breeze blowing that would dry a line in half an hour but the OP's washing is inside because they're determined to clawback their upfront cost!

matelodave

No, ours goes on the line when it's appropriate so the dryer only gets used for towels and when the weather is inclement which means it would take even longer to get a payback

ElkyElky

False economy replacing perfectly working appliances with more energy efficient ones. It's laughable, I'm literally laughing to myself at the thought of you replacing a working washing machine with something several hundreds just because it carries a A++++++++ or whatever rating.

How funny. Any savings you'd get from your electricity will now be void after throwing out working appliances. Haha.

Cardew

ElkyElky wrote: »

False economy replacing perfectly working appliances with more energy efficient ones. It's laughable, I'm literally laughing to myself at the thought of you replacing a working washing machine with something several hundreds just because it carries a A++++++++ or whatever rating.

How funny. Any savings you'd get from your electricity will now be void after throwing out working appliances. Haha.

What a strange and insulting post!


The OP has not claimed or insinuated that his aim is purely money saving. For whatever reason he has decided to change his dryer, possibly because he wants a bigger 8kg model. - It is called choice!


He simply asked for comments from people who had similar appliances.


We change our cars for brand new models(even 4x4s!) knowing full well it is a very poor decision from a money saving POV - It is called choice!

Ditto, we change working TVs, serviceable clothes, computers, houses, etc etc - It is called choice!

Pincher

The best way to dry is in direct sunlight, as it kills germs as well.

Unlike a Miele, which I do have, albeit a C Rated T260, the house appreciates in value. In fact, this particular house was less than £200k 20 years ago, but is around £900k now (if you believe Zoopla).

Hence, I declare the most money saving approach is to buy a house with a big garden.

Personally, I suspect the fancy heat pump stuff will fail soon after the ten year warranty, and it will cost hundreds to fix, so you end up buying another one any way. The T260, being mechanically simpler, will last much longer. So you might save on electricity (~£60 a year, according to the kWh estimate from John Lewis), but you could end up spending more on replacement every ten years.

Another issue with Miele is, they seem to live longer than you do. The first one was replaced around 30 years old, but only because the door catch was sticking, the actual tumble dryer mechanism was fine! I already bought the kit and replaced the catch mechanism once, maybe ten years previously, for about £100. So if I put the £100 towards a new one, at around £500, it's like the new one only costs £400. This means that this T260 will be the one I have when I DIE! So it had better be the one I want to have, not some compromise to save a few quid.

If I was an emperor, and I was choosing possessions to be buried with me, a vented sensor dry Miele will definitely be on the list, as well as the Terracotta soldiers. The tomb will need a vent, though. NEVER a condenser model!

Cardew

Pincher wrote: »

a vented sensor dry Miele will definitely be on the list, as well as the Terracotta soldiers. The tomb will need a vent, though. NEVER a condenser model!

In the past vented dryers were always considered to be more efficient than condenser models. However I have read a couple of articles that state the situation has been completely reversed.


If you look at the Sust-it table http://www.sust-it.net/energy-saving.php?id=41 all of the top rated models for efficiency are condenser dryers.


Plus of course a condenser model gives you far more flexibility in siting the appliance, and does away with the expense of fitting the extractor tubing - including the aperture in the wall.

Smiley_Dan

Also, surely the duct and the vent are big thermal bypasses! Unless the duct is insulated, and the connection into and through the dryer are airtight.