£10 Fine for Being Late

RichardD1970

HappyMJ wrote: »

So...I'm either really early or a little late depending on public transport and there's nothing I can do about it.

Personally I would prefer to be really early myself.

I know if I was an employer which I would rather you be.

Although I agree £10 seems excessive.

pogofish

Loopy73 wrote: »

Just wanted some help on clarification on weather a £10 fine for being late is legal.

Did they actually use the word "fine" ?

HappyMJ

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Personally I would prefer to be really early myself.

I know if I was an employer which I would rather you be.

Although I agree £10 seems excessive.

So would I...but if the first bus of the day is cancelled (which happens quite a lot) and the second bus is just a little late (due to the increased number of passengers) then missing the third train which just happened to arrive on time and then the fourth train is late (which happens much more than 10% if the time) then I'm late. 90% of the time the first bus arrives on time to catch the second train of the day and I'm very early. It's just that one day in ten that I may be a little late and I depart from home at 6.30am every day to get to work for a start time of 8.30am and the whole journey should take less than an hour....it just sometimes takes nearly two hours or slightly more due to missed connections (about once every two weeks). It has taken more than 3 hours before (a few times per year)....what's my excuse then. I can't get off the train as it's stuck mid station, going nowhere. I used to leave at 7.30am and get to work on time most of the time with a few minutes to spare and I would make it about 80% of the time.

I claim compensation from the train company so it goes some way towards recouping lost wages.

James_B.

GenerationRent wrote: »

Because it's impossible to be delayed due to completely unforeseeable circumstances, right?

Well it's never happened to me, in twenty years. Perhaps the laws of physics will be suspended tomorrow, and I won't be in charge of my destiny, but I doubt it.

JKSandy

i think lateness can nearly always be avoided, but I wouldn't work for a company which actually fined you financialy for being late.

QuackQuackOops

HappyMJ wrote: »

Unfortunately with a public transport system that arrives on time only 90% of the time that is very difficult to achieve when getting the first bus of the day which may or may not arrive to catch the second train of the day which if the second bus of the day arrives on time I will probably miss as the train is timed to depart within 60 seconds of the bus arriving at the station and that'll be the day when the first bus does not run and the second bus and train actually arrives spot on time making me have to catch the third train of the day which would get me to work with 2 minutes to spare but invariably the third train will be late.

So...I'm either really early or a little late depending on public transport and there's nothing I can do about it.

So you should be really early every single day to ensure you're never late.

Generally speaking, an employee who is known to always be early or on time, will not be penalised if, as you describe above, they are late once in a blue moon.

The fine will be for those employees who are hit and miss.

QuackQuackOops

James_B. wrote: »

Well it's never happened to me, in twenty years. Perhaps the laws of physics will be suspended tomorrow, and I won't be in charge of my destiny, but I doubt it.

Nor me, in over 40 years.

gettingready

Oh those whiter then white....

The only time you can guarantee being on time ALL the time is if you walk to work. That way you REALLY can depend on yourself.

The second you depend on public transport, other road users etc etc - you are NOT in control.


HappyMJ clearly states that the FIRST bus sometimes does not turn up, still some have the "turn up earlier" advise.. Turn up earlier for WHAT?

yawnnnnn @ whiter than white brigade

wubbles

pogofish wrote: »

Did they actually use the word "fine" ?

Wasting your time going down this avenue fella...

lucy03

gettingready wrote: »

Oh those whiter then white....

The only time you can guarantee being on time ALL the time is if you walk to work. That way you REALLY can depend on yourself.

The second you depend on public transport, other road users etc etc - you are NOT in control.

HappyMJ clearly states that the FIRST bus sometimes does not turn up, still some have the "turn up earlier" advise.. Turn up earlier for WHAT?

yawnnnnn @ whiter than white brigade

Unfortunately that's a sweeping generalisation which isn't IMO realistic. There are many people who do risk being late because of limited public transport, but that's not everyone. It's not necessarily anything to do with being "whiter than white", it's that for me I want to be early every day because I hate being late. Some people may struggle to do that because they don't have the transport options available, many won't.

I have lived in London and Manchester, use public transport and I haven't been late for work in 15 years. A friend of mine, who works for an airline as cabin crew, has been late to work once in a similar time period and she got a final written warning. Some employers really don't tolerate lateness if it affects their operation and so their employees have little option but to arrive early or on time every single day.

An employer could probably make a deduction for late arrival, or simply send the staff member home, but it should be noted in the contract.