Employer docking pay?

Elfbert

I've no idea as to the legality, but my old job had this same rule - clock in early/out late, and you get nothing...clock in 3 mins late, or out 1 min early, and you lose 15mins pay!

Happily my new firm pay us by the minute, so whatever we work, we get paid :T

pugger

Thanks for your replies everybody, it seems to contradict contract law though. Unless I'm missing something (quite possible!!).

RichardD1970

JReacher1 wrote: »

It's more than one minute though. Unless you are working and then suddenly stop and scan out instantaneously its more than likely there will be a few minutes between you stopping work and scanning out.

15 minutes seems a sensible cushion.

We have two bells, one 5 mins before end of shift, when we can stop work, go and wash up and get our stuff together, then go and queue at the clock to wait for the end of shift bell.

HappyMJ

pugger wrote: »

As I stated in my first post, I'm not saying signing out early is right. I just want clarification according to the law.

The law says you should be paid minimum wage for each complete hour of work...that's all. It doesn't say anything about being paid by the second or by the minute. You could be expected to be at the site 15 minutes before work starts and take 15 minutes finishing up at the end of a shift...you won't be paid for that.

pugger

Thanks. Can anybody back this up with any contract law literature?

lakes17

pugger wrote: »

Thanks. Can anybody back this up with any contract law literature?

Surely the easiest way to deal with this problem would be to work the extra minute (your contracted hours) then they won't have the need to dock your pay by 15mins


If everyone who's employed by the company worked 1min less each day over a period of time this would add up to a lot of minutes owed to the company.

pugger

I realise that, I just want to see it wrote down in black and white as lawful and not a breach of contract law. Many of us start our shifts early too. I'm not condoning people leaving early, i just want to know the hard facts on this for curiosity's sake.

pugger

http://www.worksmart.org.uk/rights/if_we_are_only_a_few_minutes

This is what I've found for starting late, I assume leaving early is covered in the same way. I'm probably sounding like I want to purposely cause trouble in my workplace but it really isn't like that. I don't appreciate threats (especially in the workplace) and if they are unlawful I'd like to address them.

Twopints

Do you get paid an extra 15 minutes if you clock out 1 minute late? If not, then surely it's an unfair term.

pugger

I wish! Lol