Combi boiler to fit in kitchen cupboard

dizzyscot

Hi,

I am going to have a new kitchen fitted and am trying to plan the best layout. I will be getting a new boiler, which will be located in the kitchen and I would like it to be concealed in a kitchen cupboard. I have come across a few that say this is possible (there is a Worcester Compact and the Vokera Vision) but when I looked at the clearances that were required it would seem that they would still be too large to fit in a standard kitchen wall unit. The images shown on their websites show these boilers in a kitchen cupboard with minimal clearances by the look of it. Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

Ruski

Clearance to either side are 'generally' only a few mm, access is needed to the top and bottom usually, so the carcasses are modified to suit.


HTH


Russ

bridgedino

Just bear in mind that if you do scrimp on the clearances. There may come a time when your kitchen unit needs to be removed to accommodate any 'hard to reach' boiler repairs

jm2926

I got my kitchen from diy kitchens, they made the cupboard deeper to fit the existing boiler for an extra £18. This may not work for you depending on your layout, as it does compromise using the worktop below.

phill99

All boilers will fit in a kitchen cupboard. You just need to find a kitchen fitter that will create a bespoke solution, while usin an off the shelf door.

cyclonebri1

phill99 wrote: »

Nearly All boilers will fit in a kitchen cupboard. You just need to find a kitchen fitter that will create a bespoke solution, while usin an off the shelf door.

Yeah? There are several so called standard kitchen unit depths, it's not that simple, it also depends on what is fitted in the next 500mm space. The height also varies with many series.
The problem is you often can't either fit the cover screws correctly. or if built around, remove them for service later.

But it ain't rocket science, holes can be drilled in adjacent cabinets to provide access for service etc, the person doing the job just has to be resourceful

Doozergirl

phill99 wrote: »

All boilers will fit in a kitchen cupboard. You just need to find a kitchen fitter that will create a bespoke solution, while usin an off the shelf door.

Yes. You did say that they will all fit by using an off the shelf door and the carpenter making a bespoke carcass for them. Just checking.

That's exactly what we do.

dizzyscot

I thought that the clearance requirements were to do with safety, rather than access for servicing/repair. Good to know.

I am also planning to order my kitchen from DIY Kitchens, after reading so many positive reviews on this site. I am slightly nervous about having to plan the layout and order everything myself though, hence why I am trying to figure everything out first. I did see that they may be able to provide a made to measure cabinet, if it won't fit into a standard one, so that may be the best way.

As an aside, does anyone know much about boilers? Are compact ones just as good as a standard sized one? I am not yet at the stage of getting a gas safe engineer so haven't been able to ask yet.

Thanks!

cyclonebri1

Doozergirl wrote: »

Yes. You did say that they will all fit by using an off the shelf door and the carpenter making a bespoke carcass for them. Just checking.

That's exactly what we do.

No, that's not what Phil said, he said they would fit a "kitchen cupboard", everyone takes that as a standard kitchen cupboard?.
Changing the carcase means they don't all fit in a standard unit, which they don't.

cyclonebri1

dizzyscot wrote: »

I thought that the clearance requirements were to do with safety, rather than access for servicing/repair. Good to know.

I am also planning to order my kitchen from DIY Kitchens, after reading so many positive reviews on this site. I am slightly nervous about having to plan the layout and order everything myself though, hence why I am trying to figure everything out first. I did see that they may be able to provide a made to measure cabinet, if it won't fit into a standard one, so that may be the best way.

As an aside, does anyone know much about boilers? Are compact ones just as good as a standard sized one? I am not yet at the stage of getting a gas safe engineer so haven't been able to ask yet.

Thanks!

Most are balanced flue, possibly they all are, this means the air for combustion is drawn from outside, not from in the room or cupboard even.

phill99

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

No, that's not what Phil said, he said they would fit a "kitchen cupboard", everyone takes that as a standard kitchen cupboard?.
Changing the carcase means they don't all fit in a standard unit, which they don't.

No. I didn't state that it would be using a standard cupboard. You assumed that. I said a 'bespoke' solution. That means its bespoke (look it up).

We use 2 (cut to size) floor end panels for the 2 sides of the 'cupboard' and edged plinths for the rail and stiles. Then use a (typically) door from an integrated fridge/freezer housing unit. You don't put a top or bottom on.

I can email you pics of you want.

For a decent carpenter, this is very straight forward.