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why are all shares generally tanking? FTSE was 6800+ now 6500

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  • chinas property bubble has burst and eurozone deflation looming
  • Generali
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    Maybe a better way to think about things is, If things are so bad, why are markets down so little?
  • globalds
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    Generali wrote: »
    Maybe a better way to think about things is, If things are so bad, why are markets down so little?
    A glut of easy money ..?

    Should that worry me ?
  • Generali
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    globalds wrote: »
    A glut of easy money ..?

    Should that worry me ?

    Not necessarily, so far so good.
  • globalds
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    Generali wrote: »
    Not necessarily, so far so good.


    reminds me uncomfortably of that comment about every day the farmer turns up he feeds said by one turkey to another ..
  • Generali
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    globalds wrote: »
    reminds me uncomfortably of that comment about every day the farmer turns up he feeds said by one turkey to another ..

    Reminds me of the joke about the man who jumped off the top of the Eiffel Tower and as he fell was asked if he was ok.

    "So far so good", came the reply.

    The main bad thing that can come from QE is inflation. There is absolutely no sign whatsoever of inflation so far.
  • Generali wrote: »
    Maybe a better way to think about things is, If things are so bad, why are markets down so little?

    Give it time.

    We keep hearing about recovery. Well I was hearing that years ago, why do we still need to keep hearing it if it was a real recovery. I didnt know it could take this long, before you know it we will be well into our next bust :)

    But seriously it does look like deflation everywhere. Not only stocks going down, commodities and everything is going down measured against fiat currency.

    Cash is king, debts are going up compared to everything else.
  • Generali
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    debts are going up

    Not particularly, not private debt.

    Public debt remains out of control, albeit with a Government that wants to get it under control and has been rather shafted by 60 years of socialism (baby boomers are retiring and the very generous benefits they voted that they would get are kicking in).
  • Thrugelmir
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    Did I say it was? That's right, I didn't, I was simply (as you know) responding to this post:


    I was illustrating why the index hasn't returned to it's peak. The Dot Com bubble not only caused an index to fall, people lost capital. As they had overpaid for an asset class and invested in companies that were in some cases worthless.
  • Generali wrote: »
    Not particularly, not private debt.

    Public debt remains out of control, albeit with a Government that wants to get it under control and has been rather shafted by 60 years of socialism (baby boomers are retiring and the very generous benefits they voted that they would get are kicking in).

    I did not mean level of debt I mean value.

    In deflation savings in cash go up in value in debt goes up in relation to everything else.

    So in this respect debt goes up.
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