Moving Phone line connection from Bedroom to Living room

Broglie

Hi,

Currently we have the main phone line connection in the bedroom. This is where we have hooked up our sky fiber optic router(wireless) as well. That means both the phone line connection and the internet connection set up is in my bedroom.

I would like the phone connection and the internet connection to be moved into the living room so that it could be hooked up with my TV to watch movies online.

Any idea how i can move the phone line? I checked up with Sky with whom i have the phone line rental( which is in fact provided by BT ) and they are charging £130 + vat for moving the line to the living room.

I feel £130 + Vat is a lot for doing this job, Any other options or suggestion?

Thanks

lovinituk

Get a quote from a local electrician - they should be able to do it cheaper.

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The cables and clips to pin to the skirting board are as cheap as chips in DIY stores and online. An electrician (or Sky installer) should not be required.

lovinituk

Moneyineptitude wrote: »

The cables and clips to pin to the skirting board are as cheap as chips in DIY stores and online. An electrician (or Sky installer) should not be required.

If you don't mind the cables and clips running around the house that is! Personally I can't stand visible cabling - its a real pet hate of mine.

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lovinituk wrote: »

If you don't mind the cables and clips running around the house that is! Personally I can't stand visible cabling - its a real pet hate of mine.

Similarly, there is cheap trunking available from the same outlets to hide the cables.

Certainly Sky wouldn't be hiding the cables if they fit the extension. I also doubt a jobbing electrician would do additional plastering to conceal the cables without charging a whole lot more than Sky are quoting.

onomatopoeia99

If you have one of the new faceplate / master socket, wiring an extension won't let you move the router or the VDSL modem as the new faceplate does the filtering, meaning you don't need microfilters around the house and the VDSL modem can only be connected to the master socket. This sort of thing:



Moving the master socket is a BT job (Sky pay a wholesale line rental to BT for your line and would book the job with Openreach who maintain the network). That is because the master socket belongs to BT and is considered part of their network which means legally you are forbidden from tampering with it, just as you would be if you opened a green box and started moving wires around inside.

That's the legal position. It's not physically impossible to do if you are determined as it's only basic wiring.

lovinituk

Moneyineptitude wrote: »

Similarly, there is cheap trunking available from the same outlets to hide the cables.

Certainly Sky wouldn't be hiding the cables if they fit the extension. I also doubt a jobbing electrician would do additional plastering to conceal the cables without charging a whole lot more than Sky are quoting.

The trunking looks just as bad as the cabling. If it was me, I would be getting the electrician to re-route it externally round the outside of the house to the new desired location. In my opinion this looks a lot more acceptable than the internal option of trunking or cabling running all over the skirting boards and door frames which in turn create extra dust traps.

Each to their own and all that.

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lovinituk wrote: »

If it was me, I would be getting the electrician to re-route it externally round the outside of the house to the new desired location.

Firstly, that would be a whole lot more expensive than the amount Sky have quoted. Do remember that Sky's price was too dear for the OP.

Secondly, I'm not sure it would be a good idea for a telephone and broadband extension to be fitted outside the house. The cables are not suitable for use outdoors and so would need to be protected in some manner (the trunking you don't like?). Such extensions should also not have long cable runs which can degrade signal, I'm certain fitting to the exterior would require an even longer extension.

Obviously the best (and most expensive) option is for the cables to be fitted in trunking buried in the plaster or behind wallpaper.

The most money-saving (and most likely) option is to clip the wires to the skirting boards.

lovinituk

Moneyineptitude wrote: »

Firstly, that would be a whole lot more expensive than the amount Sky have quoted. Do remember that Sky's price was too dear for the OP.

Secondly, I'm not sure it would be a good idea for a telephone and broadband extension to be fitted outside the house. The cables are not suitable for use outdoors and so would need to be protected in some manner (the trunking you don't like?). Such extensions should also not have long cable runs which can degrade signal, I'm certain fitting to the exterior would require an even longer extension.

They're not talking about an extension, they said they wanted it moved. And I have done the very thing I suggested several times with BT, Sky and Virgin cabling with no adverse affect whatsoever. External grade cabling doesn't need protecting or trunking.

When I had an electrician do it, they were far cheaper than the quote from Sky hence why I suggested it to the OP. Its a !!!! easy job that an electrician could do quickly and easily - companies like Sky and BT just charge more. Later times I've done it myself but I'd only suggest that to someone who is handy with power tools.

I realise you prefer your idea, but I'm talking from experience and just giving the OP a usable, proven alternative. As I said, each to their own.

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lovinituk wrote: »

I realise you prefer your idea, but I'm talking from experience and just giving the OP a usable, proven alternative. As I said, each to their own.

Actually, as pointed out by another, moving the master socket is BT's responsibility That is because the master socket belongs to BT and is considered part of their network which means legally it is forbidden to tamper with it. So although it is Sky quoting for the task, it is Openreach who maintain the network.

So an electrician (while cheaper) is technically not allowed to do this job.

I have no "preference", I was just pointing out alternatives and the possible cost consequences.

lovinituk

Moneyineptitude wrote: »

Actually, as pointed out by another, moving the master socket is BT's responsibility That is because the master socket belongs to BT and is considered part of their network which means legally it is forbidden to tamper with it. So although it is Sky quoting for the task, it is Openreach who maintain the network.

So an electrician (while cheaper) is technically not allowed to do this job.

Although "technically not allowed", I had an electrician move our main phone socket. BT don't keep a record of where every master socket is located so they would be hard pressed to prove that anyone has moved it.

Every electrician I have ever used has been for more competent that any Openreach engineer I have ever had the displeasure to have to call on. We had some serious issues caused by multiple Openreach engineers (6 in total believe it or not!) on our business line that was eventually fixed by a BT Directors troubleshooting team over the phone after all the Openreach engineers fobbed me off with excuses as to why it couldn't be done, even though they caused the issue in the first place.

Moneyineptitude wrote: »

I have no "preference", I was just pointing out alternatives and the possible cost consequences.

Me too