Most underpaid profession?

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starrystarry wrote: »

Out of interest, what do nurses earn roughly?

Band 5 (entry level nurse) would start out on £21,500 and the salaries max out at £67k

BUT.. that maxing out is for senior matrons; of which you don't have many. Here's the job roles (listing the bands) and the salary ranges for bands - http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/working-in-the-nhs/pay-and-benefits/agenda-for-change-pay-rates/

On top, you might have London weighting and unsociable hours pay.

I know some nurses that do work at stadiums to earn extra cash. There's also the ability to work 'bank' shifts and through agencies

A Band 6 nurse (i.e. not entry level, but not management) would earn from £25,783 to £34,530.

Also, the long you're there, the more holiday you get. My wife is now up to 8 weeks. Then again, she also typically works Christmas day

SailorSam

fairy_lights wrote: »

Binmen; I worked in the office off a waste company for a while and saw how hard they all worked. The hours were long and it is a very physically demanding job, Freezing cold in winter, baking in the summer, they often got injuries or heatstroke. Not to mention the abuse they got from the public if a collection was late! Most of them were on the minimum wage which I think is far too low to be paid for clearing up everyone else's rubbish and mess.

I don't think binmen are badly paid these days. There are lots of people who work outside and have to face whatever weather is thrown at them. But the binman of today can't be compared to one in years past, when everyone had a coal fire the binman would need to walk down entries into back gardens and lift heavy steel bins full of ashes, on his back and then take the empty bin back. There's no lifting for the binman of today, the wheelie bins are just pushed to the back of the wagon, and if you don't leave your bin at the kerb they'll leave it. They'd never come looking in your back garden.

dawyldthing

I think it depends. I'm a support worker and I would say we don't have it too bad. Carers in nursing homes work much much harder. I think nurses are on a fair wage. I do think that teachers, nurses etc should all start on 20k once qualified then get an increase of 2% each year. People say they don't get paid well but I know teachers that have been there for 5 years and they will be on around 27k ish, which is a huge jump in a few years tbh.

But on the other hand to help I think that the government should say 'right, for every full year teaching (nursing, being a doctor - whatever) you'll get 2k knocked off your student loan if working for the public. The reason why is how many graduate then do private work, work abroad etc when we struggle to recruit nurses etc. i think 2k would act as a good incentive, esp when many loans don't get paid off anyway

Sncjw

What I don't get with mps who I think are the most over paid people is that they become head of a department they have no experience in, also theh chop and change the heads of departments . How can you be a secutary of state then be head of the food and agriculture . Just an example there. The heads should be the people who have worked their way up in the department have awareness of the department and this would help the department. It's madness and also mps want a 11% pay rise um last year the daily mail put out a graph to show that mps were only in parliament for less than half the year. Yeah I know they work outside it but surely they should be in parliment more than that.

Sncjw

I've said to my mam footballers don't seem to manage money well, it's all well and good getting a high wage now but what about when you retire aged 30-40. They blow it and they have nothing to fall back on. I think that's what happend to garza he became bored as he had nothing to fall back on after football so just drank.

kerri_gt

Sadly for a number of footballers it's too much too young, imagine earning some of their salaries when you were 18, 19 or 20. At that age 30 seems a distant land, something to worry about later. Often youngsters are away from home and unless they are lucky with good management to advise them, i can understand how it's easy to slip into a lifestyle of excess, particularly when your peers are doing the same thing. I'm not saying it's right, but I can see how it happens.

That said, many don't get paid these superstar sums, or don't p*ss it up the wall, but they don't make good stories to sell papers.

Andy_L

starrystarry wrote: »

Out of interest, what do nurses earn roughly?

£21.5k fresh out of "nurse school" (a 3 year mix of academic & practical training) rising to £28k over 7 years.

pinkshoes

I can only compare engineering to teaching, but a career in engineering has much shorter hours and pays better than teaching!

I do love teaching, but to do the job properly, the hours are ridiculous during term time. The job is never ending, and there is always something else that you could do. Yes, you do get long holidays, but if I averaged out my term time hours over 47 weeks (like an engineering job with 5 weeks holiday), then i now work longer hours for much less pay!

I do know teachers who do the bare minimum though, who also manage to have a life during term.

RuthnJasper

redcard wrote: »

How can Police and Firemen be so severely underpaid when vacancies are so oversubscribed?

Firemen and Policemen spend most of their working day doing hardly anything.

It isn't what they do day-to-day. It is what they are prepared to do in the dire straits of tragedy and frightening situations that warrants better pay.

I'd much rather they were paid from my taxes for sitting around all day than the alternative... I have seen at first hand the selflessness of the emergency services in horrific situations. They are better people than I could ever even aspire to be.

Indie_Kid

PlymouthMaid wrote: »

Care work will always be low paid I suppose as, firstly, it requires relatively little training or qualifications

Not always! Mum is a carer and has to deal with trachies, the various machines, tube feeding, etc. Hardly something that requires little training.