Walls in Terraced house

aylithuk

Morning

I was wondering if someone could help me out.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-45757085.html

This is not a house I am looking to buy (wish it were but the vendors wants a quick sale) however you can see they've knock thru the 2 reception rooms.

I always thought that kind of wall would be load bearing, but given my diy skills are not great, was wondering if someone could tell me if they got round this by creating just the gap and keeping the supporting part? - hope that makes sense?

Considering doing this in another house (potentially) but with more period features. Currently it quite dark with the wall still splitting the 2 rooms.

Hope I've explained myself well enough for someone to understand.

duchy

Load bearing beam probably.
I had a friend so this and they had RSJs put in to do it. Not a DIY job I don't think !!!! (certainly not for me anyway lol)

Doozergirl

Parts of supporting walls can be removed as long as the load above is distributed somewhere.

You can see that piers have been left at either side and that there is something across the top. Across the top will be a brand new steel beam (RSJ - rolled steel joist). That takes the load of the wall and joists above and spreads it across to the two piers - which are part of the original wall, left intact. There is a bit more to it than that, but that's the jist.

The RSJ required needs to be calculated by a structural engineer and the work signed off by Building Control at the local council.

ariba10

Did the same in our house 35 years ago.

Put in a stout steel R S J. No problems yet!

aylithuk

Thanks guys. Give me an idea of the work required.

Does anyone have a ball park cost for a job like this?

cyclonebri1

Ok, all above advice is sound, but in a small property, the typical terraced home, it's nearly always the same,

The 2 room lie either side of the spine wall.

The sine wall runs the whole length of the terrace directly under the apex of the roof. It's this wall that carries upstairs and then the roof.

Yes, you can knock through, you just need to insert a lintel to carry the load above

wallbash

he sine wall runs the whole length of the terrace directly under the apex of the roof. It's this wall that carries upstairs and then the roof.

Not in my first house, up stairs dividing wall was lath and plaster.
Roof was supported by roof trusses sitting on wall plate.

I had a friend so this and they had RSJs put in to do it. Not a DIY job I don't think !!!!

Was quite common in the past, before red tape got in the way, I think I was involved with about 7 , and I know personally that the houses have all survived.

Give me an idea of the work required.

We use to do them in a long week end. But you have to add the cosmetic .

And even thirty years ago, everyone was different.1st couple we got away with engineering bricks, then we had to pour pad stones. As for calculations ......... they just had to be supported by at least 12 inches .
Then encased in two layers of plaster board.

cyclonebri1

wallbash wrote: »

Not in my first house, up stairs dividing wall was lath and plaster.
Roof was supported by roof trusses sitting on wall plate.




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The wall plate is the timber at the edge, the side of the house,

Where or what did they sit on in the middle??

The upstairs/downstairs dividing wall in any simple terraced house is always the spine wall, ie, it carries the load from above to the footings

wallbash

The upstairs/downstairs dividing wall in any simple terraced house is always the spine wall, ie, it carries the load from above to the footings

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1186031

post# 2009

Shows a lath / plaster ( well it would if I had not already removed the mess) dividing wall, upstairs , you can see the loft hatch

cyclonebri1

wallbash wrote: »

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1186031

post# 2009

Shows a lath / plaster ( well it would if I had not already removed the mess) dividing wall, upstairs , you can see the loft hatch

Yes upstairs, but sorry don't clearly get
the other pics, so left at that.

Doozergirl

aylithuk wrote: »

Thanks guys. Give me an idea of the work required.

Does anyone have a ball park cost for a job like this?

Around £1500 for the builder and the wall replastered. Add VAT if the contractor is VAT registered. Could be less, could be more, but there's a ballpark.

For us, the structural engineer would be £120 + VAT. Building control £155 inc VAT.