Postal Notification of Parking Charge

Coupon-mad

Good point but the answer is the same - you have to win on contract law points at IAS too. And it is MUCH harder than POPLA.

aleem321

Would it be ok to e-mail my appeal on their (PCM) website ? or recorded delivery is better option ? Please advice. Thanks

Redx

aleem321 wrote: »

Would it be ok to e-mail my appeal on their (PCM) website ? or recorded delivery is better option ? Please advice. Thanks

check their paperwork and website to see what methods of appeal they allow

if posting it, go to the PO with it and get a free certificate of posting , NOT recorded , and NOT special delivery either

just a free cert of posting, nothing more, then keep it safe

aleem321

Hello guys once again. I have got the reply back from PCM in the form Rejection. Please see the uploaded images of PCM reply.

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I would like to mention again that I was present in the car while the photos were taken. Very first 2 images were taken from far distance. This guy could have asked me to move the car which he did not ask, he also refused to show his ID saying he is not obliged to show me anything.
Around 25 to 30 yards further direction in which my car is facing is dead end i.e cars can not go any further and the signage is fitted towards that end of the parking space which I believe it should have been fitted this end (or atleast 2nd signage ) where my car was so that the signage is clearly visible and noticeable to anyone entering the road (or in to parking space). The signage is fitted in parallel to the road which is hard to notice. The building which is nearest to this parking space is college building and once again anyone can be easily mistaken (like I did) this parking space belonging to college as the signage is not noticeable. The flats this parking belongs to is opposite side of the road.
On Monday I will go to that road and take photos of the road which will show all the surroundings which will help you guys to advice me better. In the mean time if you can help me in preparing the appeal. Thanks

Umkomaas

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Coupon-mad

Send me your email address by pm, aleem321 (you can trust me but if you prefer, create an anonymous email purely for this parking matter and ready for your submission to the IAS). I am writing you an IAS appeal to try. Your case has some interesting points!

aleem321

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Send me your email address by pm, aleem321 (you can trust me but if you prefer, create an anonymous email purely for this parking matter and ready for your submission to the IAS). I am writing you an IAS appeal to try. Your case has some interesting points!

Hi Coupon-mad, I tried to pm you and this is the error I am getting.
"Coupon-mad has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."
Let me know once you have generated a free space for messages.

The_Deep

This won't be the easiest appeal as it's IAS (in spite of the fact the NTK is flawed in various ways).

You (they) are not authorised under your (their) KADOE contract to issue postal PCNs except where ANPR is used under strict procedures. ...

It seems easier enough to me, if their paperwork is not valid, then surely that is it, the PCN is invalid, therefore game over.

By all means take it to appeal, and cost them money, but if the appeal is disallowed, so what, they are in denial, they are hardly going to take it in front of a judge.

Yes, the punter may be hassled, but what is more important, that we save some bilker, non-reader of the T&C, or !!!!!! who parks in a BB space, a few quid, or we get the corrupt individuals who operate this scam brought to book?

I know where my priorities lie.

Coupon-mad

aleem321 wrote: »

Hi Coupon-mad, I tried to pm you and this is the error I am getting.
"Coupon-mad has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."
Let me know once you have generated a free space for messages.

Have freed up space now.

The_Deep wrote: »

This won't be the easiest appeal as it's IAS (in spite of the fact the NTK is flawed in various ways).

You (they) are not authorised under your (their) KADOE contract to issue postal PCNs except where ANPR is used under strict procedures. ...

It seems easier enough to me, if their paperwork is not valid, then surely that is it, the PCN is invalid, therefore game over.

By all means take it to appeal, and cost them money, but if the appeal is disallowed, so what, they are in denial, they are hardly going to take it in front of a judge.

Yes, the punter may be hassled, but what is more important, that we save some bilker, non-reader of the T&C, or !!!!!! who parks in a BB space, a few quid, or we get the corrupt individuals who operate this scam brought to book?

I know where my priorities lie.

For various reasons this one is looking easier now even for IAS to grasp! You do like your word 'bilker' DP.

The_Deep

Indeed CM, it is eminently apposite.