Can anyone recommend a decent external oil fired combi boiler?

ilikecookies

captainhindsight wrote: »

A lot of posters on here seems to have a vendetta against renewables and common sense , probably because they don't understand the technology

I'm really not sure that's at all fair and does a great disservice to the very knowledgeable and helpful folks on here.

I'd certainly agree folks should explore all the options available when it comes to replacing/upgrading their heating. This is what we did a few years back when our LPG boiler gave up the ghost. But to say going the renewable route is the only sane option is a gross simplification.

Putting to one side the large capital outlay for renewables there are a lot of factors to consider such as:

1) The continued erosion of RHI payments over time which reduces the payback period significantly.
2) In addition to high install costs some of these technologies are not free to run once installed - eg. heat pumps use electricity, pellets for biomass boilers etc. The cost of pellets for example have increased markedly over time.
3) Not all properties are suited to renewables and some renewables are certainly not as convenient in such circumstances - eg. loading a biomass boiler by hand every day if you haven't got room for a hopper.
4) The technology is still not that mature - just look at all the horror stories on here particularly around heat pumps. I'm not sure a lot of installers properly understand the technology either.
5) Maintenance and servicing costs are likely to be higher.

Whilst I chose oil I genuinely would urge folks to explore renewables but as someone who looked into it extensively I can assure you it's not the straightforward/common-sense decision you suggest it to be.

TiredGeek

captainhindsight wrote: »

This just simply isn't true. Capital costs can be higher than fossil fuel alternatives, but the rewards from rhi and fuel savings more than cover this and make it a no brainer decision and put most people in profit.

the only reason not to have a renewable technology in an off grid property if you can't afford it, which should never be an issue because even with borrowing the money and paying a high interest rate you are still better off.

A lot of posters on here seems to have a vendetta against renewables and common sense , probably because they don't understand the technology

Ahem, NO.
If you have had an oil / gas / LPG boiler then there's a damn good chance your radiators won't be up to the job with a heatpump. You would be all right with a pellet burner but they are horrible to get running correctly and then the cost of pellets is going up daily.

The debate over running costs drags on and on. Renewables may be cheaper to run, but the install cost is many multiples of the cost of an oil system, so return to break even point takes years even with RHI payments.

You can't come on here with such a sweeping statement and expect to be taken seriously

The OP said his house is modernised and so needs a new boiler that works the same as the one he has. Trying to push him towards renewables is pointless. It'll cost waaaay more than a new Grant boiler and work waaaaay less well for him. If you think I'm biased because I have a vendetta and don't understand the technology, just check my sig
ilikecookies has it spot on, they can be good but they're not for most people.

captainhindsight_2

TiredGeek wrote: »

Ahem, NO.
If you have had an oil / gas / LPG boiler then there's a damn good chance your radiators won't be up to the job with a heatpump. You would be all right with a pellet burner but they are horrible to get running correctly and then the cost of pellets is going up daily.

The debate over running costs drags on and on. Renewables may be cheaper to run, but the install cost is many multiples of the cost of an oil system, so return to break even point takes years even with RHI payments.

You can't come on here with such a sweeping statement and expect to be taken seriously

The OP said his house is modernised and so needs a new boiler that works the same as the one he has. Trying to push him towards renewables is pointless. It'll cost waaaay more than a new Grant boiler and work waaaaay less well for him. If you think I'm biased because I have a vendetta and don't understand the technology, just check my sig
ilikecookies has it spot on, they can be good but they're not for most people.

You are the one coming on here and making sweeping statements and cannot be taken seriously. I have extensive first hand experience of heating and especially renewables on domestic and commercial scale.

All you are doing is cherry picking occasions where certain renewables are not appropriate and apply it to every situation . You are wrong in a lot of what you say, renewables can be direct replacements to fossil fuels with capital costs covered by Rhi usually around 5 years.

Wood pellet prices do not and have not gone up, official figures suggest annual increase of 0.5% per annum this is significantly cheaper.

You have no first hand knowledge and are just quoting hear say and opinion and not fact.

TiredGeek

captainhindsight wrote: »

You have no first hand knowledge and are just quoting hear say and opinion and not fact.

OKAAAAY, oh mighty knowledgeable one, I humbly stand corrected.
LMFAO
Did you even check my sig, or did you simply not understand it?

captainhindsight_2

Ok you own two eco dans so are knowledgable on all aspects of renewables. And heating..... Ooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.......that's like saying some one that owns a car is an expert on cars, some one that owns a house in a property expert etc etc etc.

Internet 'experts' are the funniest!

bobmedley

captainhindsight wrote: »

Internet 'experts' are the funniest!

Oh the irony, the irony.....

captainhindsight_2

bobmedley wrote: »

Oh the irony, the irony.....

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How is that irony, I have first hand experience of all these tehcnologies having them in my home, offices and rented accommodation and also recently bought a company that installs them, alongside people who fit them and design them day to dat....
What are you credentials, a few hours on google?? lol.

ilikecookies

Ahhh so it turns out that captainhindsight in fact sells renewable solutions - what a surprise therefore that his view on them is so balanced!!!

captainhindsight_2

I sell a lot of things, it doesn't mean I can't have a balanced view on things
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I also sell milk, does that mean I have an unbalanced view on different dairy products??lol.

I think every one on here can see how bitter you are about being wrong and your opinions have no relevance

ilikecookies

captainhindsight wrote: »

I think every one on here can see how bitter you are about being wrong and your opinions have no relevance

Darn you've exposed me for what I am: "bitter" check, "wrong" check AND I'd also have to agree that my opinions indeed have no relevance :rotfl:

You, on the other hand, have come across as a very self-depreciating, helpful and balanced individual with no axes to grind and certainly no conflicting interests. Your opinions are obviously right and so much more worthy than my own or indeed anyone else on here I'm sure everyone will see that but thanks for helping me realise it and exposing me to others. I'm sure your OBE is in the post.

Do share your company name etc as I'm sure everyone will flock to buy a system from you as I'm sure your customer service skills match your positive, friendly and welcoming attitude.

I'll get my coat but peace and love and thanks again for being one of those people who make the internet a better place!

Remember folks “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” (George Carlin)