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  • mutley_muppet
    mutley_muppet Posts: 1,071 Forumite
    edited 24 September 2014 at 8:12PM
    karlie88 wrote: »
    This 91 year old man actually brought a tear to my eye:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29351811

    :T

    Bless him. Heartbreaking xxx
    karlie88 wrote: »
    It's great to see people like you who take the time and effort to read up on their medical problems. It really is nice to see. I also means you manage your illness better and tend to be more compliant with medication.

    :)

    I applaud you.

    Thank you Karlie. I had to make time to research my condition as I suffered for years without a diagnosis which was very frustrating. It's nice now to be able to converse with my GP or endo and actively particpate in my health rather than just sit there and take tablets!!
    karlie88 wrote: »
    Re: TSH. The test undertaken in GP/hospital setting is actually a Thyroid Function Test (TFT). This comprises of TSH, T4 and T3 levels. Together, these are interrupted to give an overall picture of thyroid health. If abnormal, these tend to be repeated and/or more detailed blood tests done.

    Oh how I wish you were my GP Karlie! For years my (now ex!) GP would only request the TSH test.
    I totally agree that a TFT including T4 & T3 should be done, and my GP does request these but the results are often sent back without the T3 & T4 being tested as the lab deemed them "not clinically necessary" as the TSH was normal!!
    The first time it happened I was astounded that lab could over ride what was requested by a GP. But I have since learnt that this has happened to many other people across the UK. I don't know if is a cost cutting exercise or the fact that so much emphasis has been placed on the TSH results?
    In some areas it seems that the full thyroid tests will only be carried out when requested by a consultant? Very odd as the lab are happy to do my TPO test for the auto-immune side of it, but actually the T4 and T3 results are of much more impotance to me as I know my TPO antibody levels vary widely?
    karlie88 wrote: »
    The problem is Nana, that there is a significant proportion of people who are not grateful.

    :(

    You are right, we're very lucky to have the NHS.

    I totally agree we are very lucky to have the NHS, faults & all!
    Having lived abroad where there is no NHS I really do appreciate what we do have here.

    I do not understand how people can be abusive to staff that are trying to help them? Doesn't matter to be if someone is a doctor, secretary or a check out person in Sada? There is no need to be rude or abusive, ever!
    "I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it for I shall not pass this way again."

    Stephen Grellet, (1773-1855).
  • Tinyshoes
    Tinyshoes Posts: 29,014 Forumite
    David. wrote: »
    Agree, and everyone is expected to do more and more.
    Peoples expectations are sky high as to what service they should get :eek:
    Teachers as an example people think they work 8;30 till 3;30 with an hour for lunch and 13 weeks off :rotfl:
    Try 7:30 till 5:30 then after tea another 2-3 hours marking and planning. Plus after school clubs and weekend catching up on all the paperwork the government demands now ticking boxes and providing proof rather than teaching the little cherubs ;)
    So if hours are counted minimum wage or somewhere near not bad for A levels, degree and teacher training :( and no its not me :p

    I didn't have you down as a teacher Dotty, the naughty boy in the corner maybe.... :p
  • izzy65
    izzy65 Posts: 2,862 Forumite
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    karlie88 wrote: »
    The problem is Nana, that there is a significant proportion of people who are not grateful.

    :(

    You are right, we're very lucky to have the NHS.

    I'm just going to inform you of the cruel/sad/disappointing stuff that I sometimes see. This may be a long post and I apologise in advance.

    I go to work and I see 'ungrateful' people everyday. They 'whinge' about their care, long waiting times, uncomfortable beds, not enough pillows, operation delays, hospital food, delays in scans and several hundred other things. I see doctors, staff nurses, auxiliary nurses, sisters, porters, radiographers, bank nurses, locum doctors etc. get verbally abused (myself included) and sometimes physically abused. On one occasion, my colleague was strangled by a patient's relative after they had waited over 30 minutes for a doctor to attend them (not strangled to death, but to the extent where he couldn't breathe for about 10 seconds). I found him (by chance) on a set of stairs in the hospital; he was crying his eyes out.

    People do not realise that from 5pm to 8am (15 hours of the day; Monday to Friday), the hospital is severely lacking in staff. Add to this the whole of Saturday and Sunday. People think that a hospital is a 24/7 working environment and it is, to some extent. But people don't realise that departments close down and that there are 'on-call teams' when doctors are on shift.

    For example, pretty much all hospitals in the UK (big or small) have about 3 doctors on-call during the evenings/nights/weekends. A&E is the only department to be fully staffed 24/7. These 3 doctors on-call typically have to look after 300 - 500 inpatients (i.e those in beds and on wards). But what people don't realise is that Mr Jones on the Cardiology ward starts to have a heart attack at 11pm. At the same time, Mrs Campbell develops signs of stroke on Ward 12. Half an hour later, a nurse bleeps you to say that Mr Stokes is becoming more short of breath and is now coughing up blood. An hour later, Margaret on Ward 32 starts to vomit blood and is developing severe abdominal pain. 2 hours before you got a bleep but didn't have time to answer it, you get re-bleeped from the same number; turns out Betty had a fall from her bed and has now fractured her femur. You then get a call from the on-call radiologist to say someone's scan results weren't reviewed earlier in the day and that the patient's results show a severe pneumonia...are they on antibiotics? Nope. We are pushed to breaking point..and then you get abuse, jokes about being late on the seen, complaints of poor service, 'I called for you 2 hours ago', being strangled...the list goes on.

    Even nursing staff are stretched (and that's every single hour of every week - they have so much 'mandatory' paperwork to fill in that they haven't got time to actually look after the patients). It's such a shame to see; they're job description says it all, they need to nurse patients. However, some big shot in the managerial side of the hospital decides to introduce new paperwork which takes an hour to complete. How are they supposed to look after their patients? Administer medication? Help feed them? Respond to their pain?

    Granted, mistakes happen. We are only human. Some mistakes should never happen, but they do. But has anyone ever thought, why? Could it not be frustration within? Tiredness? Stretched resources? On average, every year one doctor is killed when driving home from a long shift. Verdict? Sleeping at the wheel. :(

    I've lost count the number of journeys I've done driving home and not remembering a single thing about the drive home; almost sleeping with my eyes open.

    Sorry about the above; this was not aimed at anyone in particular. Just my viewpoint/interesting facts about the hospital environment.

    Needed to get that off my chest. :mad::o:rotfl::o:mad:

    There's just a growing number of people who don't appreciate a thing that the NHS offers; 1st class health

    :T

    Karlie, I for one think you and your colleagues are miracle workers, and I thank my lucky stars that the nhs exists, I have had more than my fair share of hospital stays, 14 in patient stays last year alone and I have been in theatre either 11 or 12 times, lost count:o, so please remember there are some of us who think you are a hero:A
    The person who never makes a mistake never learns anything.
  • emerald21
    emerald21 Posts: 11,349 Forumite
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    mhoc wrote: »
    we have fields at the back of us, all off the road so no traffic to worry about so now that the grass has been cut we take our Sophie (tortoishell) for walkies alongside the field edges - w did a circuit of 2 fields yesterday and she was so knackered last night she climbed on my lap at 9 and would not budge until bedtime and she was still asleep on her blanket at 9 this morning :D.

    I must be tired I thought you were talking about a tortoise and wondered that must have taken a long time going round two fields :o
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    Just completed an Argenteuil survey. It asked how many air fresheners I had bought in the last 6 months:rotfl:
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • mrsmac10
    mrsmac10 Posts: 4,676 Forumite
    Happy Birthday PD

    Hope you have had a lovely day
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    emerald21 wrote: »
    I must be tired I thought you were talking about a tortoise and wondered that must have taken a long time going round two fields :o

    Splurt:rotfl:

    Oh my goodness .....what with you and viv:rotfl:

    Oh and tweets 's lovely paws:smileyhea
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
  • underperky
    underperky Posts: 5,217 Forumite
    Happy Birthday PD
  • zippydooda
    zippydooda Posts: 16,121 Forumite
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    TrulyMadly wrote: »
    What price is that zippy chicken please?

    £6.88 they just started stocking up for tomorrow as mine shuts at 8pm
  • TrulyMadly
    TrulyMadly Posts: 39,754 Forumite
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    Well there's a surprise. Just checked A and my E vouchers are in for the shop I did on Monday:T

    Noticed tonight that the Croft Particular Sherry is half price down to £5. Might stick a couple of bottles in a C and C which might pick up M's £8.99 price

    Just over £3 a bottle is a cracking price and more Christmas pressies bought:T
    To do is to be. Rousseau
    To be is to do. Sartre
    Do be do be do. Sinatra
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