PIP statistics released.

racon

nannytone wrote: »

the age you were when you asked to be transferred to PIP is irrelevant.
the only age they are concerned with is the age you were on the day that PIP was introduced, and that was 64 ... not pension age

Hey. Yes I know that, that is why I asked to be moved from DLA to PIP, because I was under 65 when PIP came out. My comments actually refer to this part of the post- "people coming up to 65 are significantly more disabled than younger people, and they claim DLA and then stay on it till death".
Those like me that were coming up to 65 can claim DLA (those over can't), but they certainly don't stay on it to death. Those aged under 65 when PIP came out will go onto PIP. Those over 65 will and do have regular assessments for the DLA and can lose it at any age. My neighbour is 75 and he had a medical assessment for his DLA earlier this year at home. He lost all of it. He can't reclaim DLA neither can he claim PIP.

nannytone_2

but he can claim attendance allowance as can you.
you made a serious error in judgement by pre empting the move to PIP. but that was your choice. now you are criticising the system for something that YOU did.
its getting old ....

racon

nannytone wrote: »

but he can claim attendance allowance as can you.
you made a serious error in judgement by pre empting the move to PIP. but that was your choice. now you are criticising the system for something that YOU did.
its getting old ....

Hey. Of course I can and have. But in my case it doesn't help not being able to claim the mobility element for a car. Also, I was assessed for Attendance by the DWP after they turned me down for PIP using the completed PIP claim form. They turned me down for that as well. Everyone under 65 will have to be re-assessed for PIP, doesn't really matter whether it is this month or in December 2017, it will still happen. For me I now know that I could have kept DLA running for a little longer but the end result would still be the same - refusal.
I was actually pointing out that for those that claimed DLA before their 65th would not keep it until death. DLA as PIP is doing, is re-assessed at any age. There is no automatic right to a lifetime of DLA no matter what your age is.

pstuart

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I was actually pointing out that for those that claimed DLA before their 65th would not keep it until death. DLA as PIP is doing, is re-assessed at any age. There is no automatic right to a lifetime of DLA no matter what your age is.[/QUOTE]




Getting into Troll type theoretical nonsense now.

925dancer

Wait, Andy derailing threads? That never happens! Oh wait........

rogerblack

nannytone wrote: »

then you werent a pensioner when PIP was introduced were you?
all people that receive DLA that were of pension age when PIP was introduced will NEVER have to transfer to PIP even if they are reassessed

As the law currently stands.
It would surprise me greatly if this does not change in the next several years, with DLA being migrated to PIP.
Or, indeed to a new aspect of UC.
There are already noises being made about means-testing DLA - putting it into UC would be a 'simple' and consistent way of doing so.

racon

pstuart wrote: »

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Hey. I'm no troll. It is a fact, both DLA and PIP are reviewed. Whether you are 40 or 90 receiving DLA or PIP, you can have your award terminated at any age. There is no such thing as an award that is given for life.

racon

rogerblack wrote: »

As the law currently stands.
It would surprise me greatly if this does not change in the next several years, with DLA being migrated to PIP.
Or, indeed to a new aspect of UC.
There are already noises being made about means-testing DLA - putting it into UC would be a 'simple' and consistent way of doing so.

Hey. That's what I think as well. It is crazy having two different benefits for the same thing running side by side. I think that from 2017, they will bring the under 16's and over 65's under PIP.
As for it being means tested, I hope it does and it should also include the Attendance benefit as well. Far too many people are being given the awards when they have more than enough money to cover the extra costs of a disability without being handed even more money.

pstuart

racon wrote: »

pstuart wrote: »

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Hey. I'm no troll. It is a fact, both DLA and PIP are reviewed. Whether you are 40 or 90 receiving DLA or PIP, you can have your award terminated at any age. There is no such thing as an award that is given for life.

Please don't feed it.

racon

pstuart wrote: »

racon wrote: »

Please don't feed it.

Hey, I'll take issue with you for that comment that looks like it is directed at me. For a start I'm no troll. Secondly, if as you are suggesting, that what I have said is a load of rubbish, please correct my comments, explaining where I have it so completely wrong!
I believe that what I have said is completely 100% correct!
Why don't you go back under your bridge and refrain from giving what appears to be wrong advice.