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Is it actually "an offence" to mis-describe contents of letter

JethroUK
JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
I need to sell 62424t36278466242662 million antique coins

Everytime I try to post one I get the 3rd degree from the royal mail Gestapo because its "money"

1/ I would challenge that on the grounds that when RM defined "money" in the first instance, they were talking about "legal tender" (not out of circulation coins which could be worth 1p to £1000000 and could be described as "medals" or "tokens")

2/ I tried describing them as "medals" (which some are) but the Gestapo said "jewellery" is classified

Decided to say they are ""buttons"

I am posting "2nd class signed for" which is insured up to £50

So my question is:

Is it actually "an offence" to mis-describe contents of letter, OR is it just for insurance purposes?

= I understand i will lose any claim

= that's my responsibility and not a concern for the RM Gestapo teller

PS - not interested in "opinions" - I already have one and I'm too busy working - I'm only interested in *facts* from people that *know* the answer
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  • campdave
    campdave Posts: 2,198 Forumite
    You don't get definitive advice on an internet forum.
  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    campdave wrote: »
    You don't get definitive advice on an internet forum.

    I am not asking for definitive "advice"

    I am asking for "an answer" to "a question", and that can happen
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  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 74,429 Ambassador
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    JethroUK wrote: »
    I am not asking for definitive "advice"

    I am asking for "an answer" to "a question", and that can happen

    The original response was correct. You specifically said

    'PS - not interested in "opinions" - I already have one and I'm too busy working - I'm only interested in *facts* from people that *know* the answer'

    if you want a legal answer then pay a solicitor. Anything here by any of us, whatever we claim to be, will be an opinion.
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  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 17 September 2014 at 8:41AM
    Who are the "Gestapo". Post office counter staff?. Describe the coins as collectable coins, not legal tender. Print this if needed. http://www.royalmail.com/personal/help-and-support/I-need-advice-about-sending-money-and-jewellery

    If you want facts ask the Royal Mail.
  • My opinion is that you could almost definitely possibly be committing an offense or possibly not as the case maybe, notwithstanding the aforesaid, but it depends.
    Warning: any unnecessary disclaimers appearing under my posts do not bear any connection with reality, either intended, accidental or otherwise. Your statutory rights are not affected.
  • pulliptears
    pulliptears Posts: 14,583 Forumite
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    My opinion is that you could almost definitely possibly be committing an offense or possibly not as the case maybe, notwithstanding the aforesaid, but it depends.

    Completely agree, except in those cases where it isn't but possibly is.
  • gollum007
    gollum007 Posts: 316 Forumite
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    edited 17 September 2014 at 12:46PM
    Yes, it's an offence.

    Section 89 onwards of the Postal Services Act 2000.
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/26/section/89


    What they'd actually do to you is probably squit all mind....
  • sequence
    sequence Posts: 1,877 Forumite
    What's the point paying for recorded if you know you can't claim ? Since the items are low value you'd be better of just adding something like 30p to the postage instead of the £1 extra you're paying royal mail. Anyway, my advice is don't waste your time with the post office, just stick it in a post box with a stamp.
  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    edited 17 September 2014 at 7:25PM
    soolin wrote: »
    The original response was correct.

    Nope
    soolin wrote: »
    You specifically said

    I know what I said
    soolin wrote: »

    if you want a legal answer then pay a solicitor.

    I did not ask for a legal answer - I asked for *a fact* as opposed to *an opinion*

    I teach youngsters to write 4 *facts* about a company

    They're not solicitors!!!!!

    Maybe you need to check the difference between *a fact* and an *opinion* if you think solicitors need to be involved lol
    soolin wrote: »
    Anything here by any of us, whatever we claim to be, will be an opinion.

    Rubbish

    "Robin Williams died a few weeks back" is a FACT

    It is not beyond children to state that, and it is comfortably within the scope of most forum members without involving a solicitor :)

    Actually I decided to adopt that as my sig - only those who know what *a fact* is need reply to my posts :D
    When will the "Edit" and "Quote" button get fixed on the mobile web interface?
  • campdave
    campdave Posts: 2,198 Forumite
    Someone needs a chill pill.
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