Thailand holiday dilema

fufu_banterwaite

To be honest if this is a serious post and your daughter and boyfriend are as pathetic as you are making out then I suggest they don’t take any holidays ever and just stay at home all day every day.

penrhyn

OP Where in Thailand we the kids going?
Bangkok, Chaing Mai, , Phuket?

Heliflyguy

andrewf75 wrote: »

It isn't foolhardy to call it very safe. Many travel experts such as Lonely Planet will say exactly that.

Yes I'm sure the traffic accidents are worse than in the UK, but the UK has a major drinking culture which creates other risks.

It depends partly on your definition of safe, but overall its one of the safer travel destinations.

Seriously!
Would I trust a company that uses the following to describe a Thai destination.

"LONG AND THIN, AND COVERED IN BLEACHED-BLONDE TRESSES, KO LANTA IS KRABIS SEXY BEACH BABE"

If all you have to go on is the ramblings of some so called travel experts who main intention to flog you their product then so be it, they will sell you a guide to Syria online right now, no mention of whether its safe to go there mind.

Do you think Thais dont drink or drink and drive and that there is no drinking culture there, not to mention the prolific use of YaaBaa by the teens.

I know there are plenty of people and families that would not describe it very safe right now.

Will it stop me going again or change my future plans no it wont but I will never go wearing some rose tinted spectacles offered up by a travel guide.

lovesgshp

Yes Heliflyguy

The thais do drink, mainly whisky and a lot take the Ice. But that is like everywhere in England.
Since the military took over, then according to son, it has got so much better, as the Thais' are quite petrified of the army presence, as against the soft police.
The incident was not a known occurence on the island that the 2 unfortunate people were subjected to. I would have thought more likely on Ko Phangan, but we may never know at the moment.
Advertising goes many ways, so the blonde tresses could just mean strips of sand. Put the link to the explanation so that we can look at it in detail.
Doshwaster may have only visited 10 times, but does that make his opinion any less relevant. How many times have you been?

Errata

Your daughter and her BF have a far better chance of being run over by a motorbike and killed than being murdered.

NiftyDigits

Further to this, I would recommend giving Koh Tao a miss, until they clean up their act.

http://1clicknews.com/thailand-beach-death-parents-convinced-son-murdered-and-his-killing-covered-up-to-protect-tourism/

Heliflyguy

lovesgshp wrote: »

How many times have you been?

As the circus continues and a bit late back.

To answer honestly having dug out my cancelled passport and not kept count

21 times since January 2001, stays between 4 days and 1 month with a lot of time roughing it with the outlaws in the boonies near the Cambodian border.

The joys of previous access to standby tickets so 8 times via Hong Kong and 3 via Bahrain on the way back (you would be daft to try standby direct to BKK).

phatbear

the fact that this story made the news highlights the fact that either:

it was a slow news day(s)
or
this was an exceptional instance in thailand.

some people have made a very valid point, but no necessarily in the most friendly manner, that if you were nervous about the trip because of this instance then you would never go anywhere.

Consider that there were 99 homicides (murder/manslaughter) in the the met police area in the 12months from aug 2013 to 2014.

Like all things you can vastly minimise risk by just being sensible, and these precautions are valid no mater where you go.

tell em to chill out and go and enjoy their holiday

Heliflyguy

phatbear wrote: »

the fact that this story made the news highlights the fact that either:

it was a slow news day(s)
or
this was an exceptional instance in thailand.

Or your only reading about what happens to British tourists in UK papers, seems obvious your are if your going to quote homicides in the Met area.

You need to add up all the other nationalities that visit Thailand and the locals to make that a valid point.

And safety isnt just about not getting murdered on holiday.

NiftyDigits

phatbear wrote: »

the fact that this story made the news highlights the fact that either:

it was a slow news day(s)
or
this was an exceptional instance in thailand.

some people have made a very valid point, but no necessarily in the most friendly manner, that if you were nervous about the trip because of this instance then you would never go anywhere.

Consider that there were 99 homicides (murder/manslaughter) in the the met police area in the 12months from aug 2013 to 2014.

Like all things you can vastly minimise risk by just being sensible, and these precautions are valid no mater where you go.

tell em to chill out and go and enjoy their holiday

Actually you are quite wrong. Don't compare an island with a population of 2100, with a city of 10,000,000. If you look at figures for Bangkok for instance, you might see a different picture.
Slow news day?
British tourists battered to death on a holiday island reported only because it was a "slow news day"??

You've got this one badly wrong.

There are a lot of odd happenings on those islands. I've had friends reporting drink spikings during Full Moon parties to me over many years. This is not a new thing. Sometimes they are lucky and are rescued by a gallant knight. Sometimes not.

The difference is that this time, an investigation has to be seen to be done.

If they did find something in Hannah's bloodstream, it doesn't mean that she knowingly took it.

I'm simply not interested in setting foot on Koh Tao or Koh Pha Ngan and I only go to Samui as I know people there.

For instance, just a couple of days ago, a girl was held up by gun and knifepoint on Koh Pha Ngan, near Haad Son. So nowhere near Haad Rin where the Full Moon Party is held.


The place has been going downhill steadily over the years. No doubt about it.