How much do you spend at Xmas on kids?

Buzzybee90

balletshoes wrote: »

whether i think thats ok is neither here nor there, if he paid his rent he was entitled to stay there once he had his council tenancy.

I'm talking about morally, I find it quite disgusting to be honest.

raven83

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

But I don't believe council housing should go to those who can afford Sky, expensive phones and designer clothes.

Takes the !!!! out of everyone paying normal rent rates.

That is a rather sweeping statement to make.

Georgiegirl256

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

But I don't believe council housing should go to those who can afford Sky, expensive phones and designer clothes.

Takes the !!!! out of everyone paying normal rent rates.

Wow. Just wow.

Balletshoes makes a very valid point above. My MIL has lived in her council house for nearly 40 years. It's been her home since her 3 boys were young. But hey, it's a council house, so no way should she be buying herself anything expensive, and heaven forbid she sets foot in M&S! She should know her place.

You can't lump everyone together to be the same, and your post reeks of snobbery.

Buzzybee90

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Wow. Just wow.

Balletshoes makes a very valid point above. My MIL has lived in her council house for nearly 40 years. It's been her home since her 3 boys were young. But hey, it's a council house, so no way should she be buying herself anything expensive, and heaven forbid she sets foot in M&S! She should know her place.

You can't lump everyone together to be the same, and your post reeks of snobbery.

I don't think social housing should go to those who don't need it, I'm not referring to the occasional trip to Marks and Sparks, but those who abuse the system to live a better life than someone earning more than them, but living in a private rental.

I don't think those who have since got well paid jobs etc should remain in social housing, as that's not who it is intended for.

pleasedelete

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

Bob crow was living in a council house, do you really think that was ok?

Yes. In 1990 I graduated and moved to London. All of the LEAs offered me free social housing. They wanted people working for them in my role but also they wanted to try and change the dynamic in some social housing and encourage social mobility. At that time much social housing was empty and no-one wanted to live in the so called 'sink estates'.

I didnt accept but friends did. We are professionals 25 years on they will earn a hefty whack. Why should they have to leave their homes just because they earn more? They did what they were asked- they lived in the community- joined residents groups, became good community members. They educated their children at local schools (lots of evidence/research about the positive impact of children from graduate parents raising educational standards and aspirations when they attend less socially affluent nurseries and schools)

They could have bought their homes (although complications with tower blocks). By not buying they ensure that eventually the housing will go back into the council stock.

Community aspirations and role models are really important. Mixed and diverse communities are better in my opinion.

I dont know the detail of Bob Crowe but given his age I would imagine that when he got social housing in London the circumstances/demand were very different from today.

Social housing today is not comparable to the past. The demand is not the same. If people meet the criteria at the time why should they have to move if they start to earn more?

alias*alibi

I've asked DD what she wants this year; she shrugged and said I dunno. So I have no idea what get her and presently no budget in mind. It's DH's 40th on 29th December and I'm really tempted to get a voucher for Harry potter world and perhaps a show for all 3 of us as our Christmas presents and do it over DH's birthday weekend. Plus a few bits and bobs for DD.

As I've been unfortunate to get flu for the past 2 Christmases this year I intend to enjoy it so we are going out for Christmas dinner instead of at home or in laws and hoping to make it special that way instead of lots of pointless gifts.

pickledonionspaceraider

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

I'm talking about morally, I find it quite disgusting to be honest.

I think you will find the debate you are looking for, on the housing board. This is a Christmas thread.

moomoomama27

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

But I don't believe council housing should go to those who can afford Sky, expensive phones and designer clothes.

Takes the !!!! out of everyone paying normal rent rates.

Why?

Their circumstances may have changed, and when you enter into a social housing property you sign a tenancy for life, at least you used to!

In my area there isn't much between housing association rents and private rents, approx £50 PCM.

I think it's awesome if someone works hard to better themselves, I would hate to be so high and mighty to think they should be penalised by having their family home taken, what incentive to work would there be if that was the case?

It's about time people stop bring so blinkered to thinking all who claim and live in council housing are scum and like those on benefits street and the like!!

Btw, I work, private rent before I get accused of being a lazy, iPhone touting, sky watching scum bag :rotfl::rotfl:

pickledonionspaceraider

ahh don't bite - he's clearly got a 'bee' in his/her bonnet

I am not sure what any of this has got to do with Christmas, maybe council house tenants aren't allowed Christmas lol

raven83

This year I said to my girls, who are nearly 12, 10 and 8 that I am not going mad on the presents, probably £100 max on main presents for each of them and maybe around £30/40 in stocking bits and pieces. Have said I am wanting to do more fun things this year, like going to see a panto, maybe and ice skating show too and also the girls can have a little xmas party and invite some friends over, for xmas tunes and mince pies etc, might buy little token gifts for each child so they can do a secret santa but that wont cost a lot.

I see so many kids and worse still parents bragging about how much they have spent on their kids at Xmas, not to mention pictures of all their Aladdin's cave of presents they have bought all plastered over FB! It is like a competition and I hate that. People are so consumed with stress and trying to out do Mrs Jones that they don't enjoy the real magic and forget why we celebrate it.