Please help !!! What is social conduct disorder?

Lainie75

Hi all

My son has been diagnosed with Social Conduct Disorder , i would really like to know some information on it and i have tryed to search online but i am just getting more and more confused , so i am hopping someone out there will have had dealings with it and can explain it to me.

thanks very much

Lainie x

newbie71_2

Hello, my mum works a lot with young people and she recommended checking out the following overview of Conduct Disorder on the 'Every Child Matters' government website at the following address:

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/deliveringservices/multiagencyworking/glossary/?asset=glossary&id=22392

Hope it helps a bit.

Lainie75

Thanks very much the link was really helpful.

Although i am still confused , we are a very loving family , there is no mental illnes , substance abuse or any other kind of abuse for that matter but it seems to say that this is the cause of the disorder or am i reading it wrong ???

conduct disorder is frequently associated with adverse environments, such as social disadvantage, homelessness, overcrowding, exposure to violence, parental criminality, parental substance misuse, and having parents with mental health problems.

thanks again Lainie x

newbie71_2

Lainie75 have just sent you a personal message. xx

Savvy_Sue

Obviously newbie knows a lot more about this than I do, but I would just like to say that just because something is FREQUENTLY associated with an adverse environment, it doesn't mean to say that it ALWAYS is. And while that might mean that some professionals look sideways at you and wonder what's 'wrong' with your family, you can look them in the eye and say "this is one of the exceptions."

Remember, before it said that it also said "The causes of conduct disorder are likely to be complex." That means you can't just blame it on the parents!

Good luck!

newbie71_2

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Obviously newbie knows a lot more about this than I do, but I would just like to say that just because something is FREQUENTLY associated with an adverse environment, it doesn't mean to say that it ALWAYS is. And while that might mean that some professionals look sideways at you and wonder what's 'wrong' with your family, you can look them in the eye and say "this is one of the exceptions."

Remember, before it said that it also said "The causes of conduct disorder are likely to be complex." That means you can't just blame it on the parents!

Good luck!

yes well said Savvy Sue :T- Lainie if you check out my PM you'll see there are also other non-family related issues that might be playing a role in this.

Lainie75

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Obviously newbie knows a lot more about this than I do, but I would just like to say that just because something is FREQUENTLY associated with an adverse environment, it doesn't mean to say that it ALWAYS is. And while that might mean that some professionals look sideways at you and wonder what's 'wrong' with your family, you can look them in the eye and say "this is one of the exceptions."

Remember, before it said that it also said "The causes of conduct disorder are likely to be complex." That means you can't just blame it on the parents!

Good luck!

He has always been a large handful (always throwing things etc) he was well liked at school (infants & juniors ) and although i was always getting letters about his behavior (not sitting still , throwing things , not listening etc) most of the teachers liked him he was like the class clown i suppose he was cheeky but funny and i just put this down to being a boy when he turned 11 he still did all the above things but he also became abusive , violent , destructive , etc and since then i have been fighting for some help and finally 2 days before his 14th birthday they tell me he has social conduct disorder and at first there was a kind of relief , like its not my fault and i have been doing the right things and then when i got home i looked on pc and become really confused , plus a couple of older people i know said it was just an excuse for a little S*** and so i was devastated as i had been telling myself there was something wrong but still had that little niggle what if i there wasnt and this was just who he was and also not to excuse his behavior but to have a reason for it and therefore be able to work on it and hopefully help him help himself.
He is a very bright boy but they are gonna test for learning diffuculties as there are many that can affect his progress if he is found to have them.
i finally feel that someone is listenly but it shouldnt be this way they should have listened at the begining luckily i have a wonderful family who have helped me keep going and i have been right down over that time , i cant imagine what it must be like for someone with no support to go through this i will put a little from my diary to show you a day in the life .

Well its been another mentally tough day as are most , My son has been well a nightmare for want of a better word he isnt sleeping at the moment which happens for weeks at a time (then he flakes out for a couple of days) and so neither am i , monday - he was awake till after 2am / last night it was 3am and today after messing my sitting room he than tossed loads of stuff out the bedroom window (papers , pens , socks etc) now he has decided to play chuck everything down the stairs , i am so mentally drained , i am past crying , i have never felt so s*** in my whole life , i love him to bits but he is killing me slowly , i dont know what else today , i am pinning my hopes on a consultant pyschiatrists meeting on tuesday in the hope i will get answers for his behavior , i really think there is some sort of mental illness because i cant believe that anyone could behave the way he does without there an issue , i hate that i am typing this and although at first i would not admit to myself that there is anything wrong i now know for my own sanity something has to be done , to know he couldnt help it would make a really big difference to how i feel , but after trying to talk him down from the windowsill for the 5th time tonight he than jumped off on to the chair again with my heart in my mouth if i try to stop him , it seems to become a game which he finds very funny , its now 1.40am he has just come downstairs(after chucking down his socks from his drawers and dvds etc) telling me he is going to sleep now and gives me a kiss and cuddle and to him its like it never happened and when you mention punishing him for what he did he gets very upset and angry like he did nothing wrong including cry his eyes out , anyway i really needed to get that out and i know all can see this but i really feel that he cant help it as to believe he could would devastate me further , the one good thing i did was stick to my weightloss plan whoo hoo me.


Anyway thanks for listening

Lainie x

georgieb_2

my son is diagnosed with part adhd and an autistic spectrum disorder. before he was diagnosed i looked and looked and researched on the net what things he could have. it seems that conduct disorder can be linked with adhd and add not always but sometimes. I am not sure the lack of sleeping is necessarily due to conduct disorder not that i know your child of course, but there could be underlying other issues which may not have been picked up yet.
its very strange when you get a diagnosis for yourown child sort of relief but feeling fairly rubbish that maybe something we could have done would have helped, but i have learnt to accept it is just the way the child is and we have to manage.
I also disagree with the environment a child is in, suggesting a conduct disorder is related to certain things in their environment is possibly misleading. It doesnt mean that you are bad parents or setting bad examples at all, it is just something that will happen regardless and there are i am sure organisations who have tips on managing and how to improve things, we were referred to aspergers support group who have been great so there is stuff out there that can help.
please feel free to pm although i appreciate everyone is different it is sometimes good to chat to people who go through similar things.

georgie x

shazrobo

Hi lainie, you could have been describing my son, from what you wrote. my lad is 12, and this morning before school, he done the whole violence bit, swearing, throwing things etc, then calmly gives me a kiss and a cuddle as tho nothing has happened, then gets in his taxi for school, my son has adhd, as well as conduct disorder, he also dosen't sleep well.
maybe your son also has adhd

Lainie75

They ruled out adhd because they said he wasnt fidgety enough as in the hour we were there he changed seats 3 x , lied down and played with cushions etc but they said if he adhd he would have been runing round the room

shazrobo

hi lainie, i wouldd seek a second opinion, as a mum to two boys with adhd, and having close friends, whose sons are adhd, i know that they don't need to be running around all the time in order to get a diagnosis.
your previous post regarding your sons behavious sounds exactly like one of my lads.
by the way, the doc that diagnosed ds1 said that ds2 didn't have it. but we sought second opinions when his behavious was so bad he was excluded from school.
now both lads are statemented, they receive the correct medication, after much trial and error and finally things are looking up for us as a family.