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Possible to get a copy of the deeds of someone else's house???

Someone has referred to having a copy of the deeds of my house.

Now I know it's perfectly possible to get hold of a copy of the Title Plan of someone else's house, ie you send a few £ to the Land Registry and they send you back a copy.

I hadn't thought it was actually possible to get hold of a copy of the "deeds" of someone else's house (ie the "Deeds" - ie the official thing that will start with "This conveyance on (date) etc etc" that the original owner of the house got given back when the house was built (prior to Title Plan era).

Is it possible?

The second question being that, if they have a copy of my Deeds, then presumably I can get hold of a copy of their "Deeds" (as opposed to just Title Plan)??

Comments

  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    edited 6 September 2014 at 10:11AM
    using this in google: "getting a copy of deeds for a property"

    produced this: https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds

    which contains this: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-copies-of-documents-registration-oc2

    none of which of course may relate to the deeds you actually want but at £7 per document its cheap enough to find out if you are right over whatever it is that bothers you !
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    edited 6 September 2014 at 1:02PM
    booksurr wrote: »
    at £7 per document its cheap enough to find out if you are right over whatever it is that bothers you !

    !!!!!!? When did they increase from £3 to £7? (133% increase)

    Edit:
    An online copy is still £3. An "official copy" by post is £7. I'm breathing normally again...
  • SG27
    SG27 Posts: 2,773 Forumite
    I have the deeds to every single house I considered buying, also the deeds of some of my neighbours unusual properties because I'm nosey :)
  • robatwork
    robatwork Posts: 7,247 Forumite
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    Excellent - was wondering what to do with my £70million. I will buy deeds for every house in England & Wales.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    jjlandlord wrote: »
    !!!!!!? When did they increase from £3 to £7? (133% increase)

    Edit:
    An online copy is still £3. An "official copy" by post is £7. I'm breathing normally again...
    And copies of other documents the LR hold (eg conveyances, lease etc) referred to in the Title are £7.
  • G_M wrote: »
    And copies of other documents the LR hold (eg conveyances, lease etc) referred to in the Title are £7.

    That sounds like what I mean, ie the "conveyances". I need to know whether they could get hold of my "conveyances" (ie what obligations/rights I have). Obviously, if they do, then I need theirs in return.

    What is the specific form I need to use to request this please? (rather than the "Title Plan")?
  • DaftyDuck
    DaftyDuck Posts: 4,609 Forumite
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    Do I detect an escalation in your border dispute?

    Frankly, unless someone is taking someone else to court, other people's deeds are not a good source of information....
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 6 September 2014 at 7:16PM
    You might Dafty...you might...

    But you also detect me in pretty darn confident mood, as I have had some very good news/advice about what my own Deeds do (or, to be more accurate, DONT contain:T:beer:). Little provincial solicitors are sometimes not the best (cue me thinking "Was that a British understatement or was that a British understatement?;)") and don't think of the most basic things, whereas top-notch national ones on the other hand...:D.

    I was reading some parts of my own Deeds with sheer incredulity at the standard they had been written to, but thinking that was just my own view and maybe I wasn't correct in spotting the obvious errors. It aint:D. I was correct it seems. Go me...

    I am up against a very very strong-willed selfish individual (who has been very used to getting their own way with many people over the years), but they don't know what they are up against - yet.....

    The Selfish One has driven me to despair (just as they hoped, I guess) over recent months, but the Seventh Cavalry has come to my rescue, much to my own surprise. I really wasn't expecting the level of help I'm now getting and wouldn't have dared ask for it and am extremely grateful for it. I don't often (trans. virtually never) get that lucky normally.
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    edited 6 September 2014 at 9:05PM
    That sounds like what I mean, ie the "conveyances". I need to know whether they could get hold of my "conveyances" (ie what obligations/rights I have). Obviously, if they do, then I need theirs in return.

    What is the specific form I need to use to request this please? (rather than the "Title Plan")?
    depends what you want it for, £3 online for a basic nosey parker job or £7 for an official hardcopy document you can use in court

    the land registry can provide:
    a) the title register which lists what the property consists of, who owns it, who has charges on it and what, if any, rights are registered against that property; or
    b) the plans register - ie the official map showing the property boundaries comprising the title

    the Land Registry will not hold the other documents which historically formed part of the paper deeds since they have no legal relevance anymore in terms of ownership although they may still have legal relevance if you are disputing something set out in them - the only person who will have those documents is the lender if still mortgaged, or the owner if mortgage now paid off

    why not follow the links I gave you above and look at the examples provided by the Land Registry to see if it is what you want
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