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Neighbours cat fouling our garden

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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Imagine if all the cats in the country disappeared for a year.

    After that time, I'll bet people would be screaming to have them back.

    We are a crowded nation, home to many humans with dirty habits, and so long as this situation pertains there will be a place for these unpaid rodent killers.

    People don't have to like cats to appreciate that.
  • TopQuark
    TopQuark Posts: 451 Forumite
    edited 11 September 2014 at 8:27AM
    Pont wrote: »
    So wrong on so many levels!

    If my kids are sick I would not expect them to puke over my neighbours garden fence. My kids are my responsibility - they do not have the 'right to roam', they have no right to enter our neighbours garden, nor to dig up our neighbours flowers, nor to c&#p in our neighbours begonias!

    Furthermore, I would not expect my neighbours to pick up the tab for 'kid-proofing' their gardens against my 'nuisance'.

    Sometimes I find the arrogance of some cat owners exasperating.:(

    Could you have made a better job of missing the point? I doubt it.

    I'm assuming you have a job, so if/when your kid gets sick during working hours and you are required to be with them, you would expect your employer and your colleagues to accommodate this and pick up your work/cover for you whilst you are absent. I've known people in the past have to re-arrange their own holiday plans because those with kids have run into difficulties. Often, there is no acknowledgement of the sacrifice made - rather it is expected that in the workplace, the childless give way to those with kids. And woe betide anyone who dares to challenge this.

    And for the record, I think that everyone needs to give and take a little in life as some things are simply out of our own control (like roaming cats and sick kids). Of course there are some people, like you it appears, who feel that everyone else should make the sacrifices and when a minor inconvenience comes their way, start throwing tantrums and screaming about their rights.

    Sometimes I find the arrogance and hypocrisy of some people breathtaking.
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  • I fail to see what any of this has to do with house buying, selling or renting!
  • J_i_m
    J_i_m Posts: 1,342 Forumite
    Unitoons wrote: »
    I fail to see what any of this has to do with house buying, selling or renting!

    It doesn't much.

    It's one of these debates with polarised perceptions.. neither of which are ultimately right or wrong.

    Inevitably it has people metaphorically fighting their corner to the death.

    It had little to do with house renting or selling on page one, and even less now.
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  • Davesnave wrote: »
    Imagine if all the cats in the country disappeared for a year.

    After that time, I'll bet people would be screaming to have them back.

    We are a crowded nation, home to many humans with dirty habits, and so long as this situation pertains there will be a place for these unpaid rodent killers.

    People don't have to like cats to appreciate that.

    Cats do not have a monopoly on rodent-killing. There are other natural predators of rats and mice, wild animals with valuable roles to play in the ecosystem, including foxes, owls, kestrels and buzzards.
  • Niv
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    J_i_m wrote: »
    It doesn't much.

    It's one of these debates with polarised perceptions.. neither of which are ultimately right or wrong.

    Inevitably it has people metaphorically fighting their corner to the death.

    It had little to do with house renting or selling on page one, and even less now.

    But it is fun to have a good debate every now and then, I see no harm in it being on this board. (Plenty of 'incorrect ' threads created on most boards here tbh if we go strictly by the board titles).
    YNWA

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  • ariba10
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    Imagine if all the cats in the country disappeared for a year.

    After that time, I'll bet people would be screaming to have them back.

    We are a crowded nation, home to many humans with dirty habits, and so long as this situation pertains there will be a place for these unpaid rodent killers.

    People don't have to like cats to appreciate that.

    Just think how many more birds there would be!
    I used to be indecisive but now I am not sure.
  • Happygreen
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    Sadly with cats there is not much you can do, even if you pick up the poop and give the neighbour the collection bag as a gift. What are they supposed to do? Cats just think that you are happily providing them with a new loo if you are digging up soil. Using the deterrent spray or granules is only advisable if you don't want to go outside yourself, the smell is really sickening. But the cats might remember and avoid the area later on. You could cover your newly ducg up areas for some time with netting until there is new plant life? The RHS recommends certain plants. A cat repellent plant, Plectranthus ornatus sold under the names of 'Scaredy Cat' or Coleus canina, is available from some garden centres or by mail order. The foliage produces an unpleasant smell when touched. This plant can be grown out of doors in the summer, but needs frost protection in winter. As with repellent substances some animals appear to ignore the smell.
    no guarantee though...
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  • Davesnave
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    Cats do not have a monopoly on rodent-killing. There are other natural predators of rats and mice, wild animals with valuable roles to play in the ecosystem, including foxes, owls, kestrels and buzzards.

    I don't recall saying that they had a monopoly, though in towns and cities, where most people live, many natural predators are sadly lacking.

    Living in the countryside, I have the predators you mention visiting or living here, some of which leave some massive poos marking their territory, but it's all part of life's rich tapestry!
  • Davesnave
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    ariba10 wrote: »
    Just think how many more birds there would be!

    You'd like to think so, but I wonder how the gene pool would do, long term, with all those sickly or not-so-bright birds surviving to breed?

    There again, we might never know, because there can be few rats that would turn down the chance of an egg!

    Nature is unpredictable.
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