Joint ventures, any resources on how to get started ?

kobracai

Mistral001 wrote: »

This has nothing to do a joint venture as Insideinsurance has said.


It is basically marketing. To be honest most customers are fairly cautious of such deals. Discount vouchers or a club card might be better.


PS. Most hairdressers I know are very good at business and do not need much help in promoting their business.

thanks. Is there any way to make some money while doing something similar? Basically I don't really have any capital to invest and I'd like to get some marketing experience on my own (something that can be tracked so I can show results), what would that be? If anyone has any idea

Opinion

If there was money to be made then people would do it themselves. They're not going to tell you how to do it.

I'd suggest going back to the drawing board and look to go down a more traditional route, try and find a job with a marketing company so see if marketing is something you do actually have some skill in.

Mistral001

kobracai wrote: »

thanks. Is there any way to make some money while doing something similar? Basically I don't really have any capital to invest and I'd like to get some marketing experience on my own (something that can be tracked so I can show results), what would that be? If anyone has any idea

Offer to do door-to-door flier delivery for businesses with cut-out discount vouchers on each flier. The businesses will be able to track your success by the vouchers they get.

InsideInsurance

kobracai wrote: »

thanks. Is there any way to make some money while doing something similar? Basically I don't really have any capital to invest and I'd like to get some marketing experience on my own (something that can be tracked so I can show results), what would that be? If anyone has any idea

Of cause there is, if you will work it out is another matter.

I cannot comment on hairdressers in particular but rarely will anyone have thought of everything and so there will be opportunities. Now, if they are interested in them, if you can make a profitable business out of them etc are another matter.

You'd also need to be sure you arent advising or taking courses of action that will result in legal issues - eg breaches in the DPA by the businesses sharing customer data. Whilst they are the ones that would have to face the ICO for the breach they would probably subsequently sue you for their losses (fines, reputation etc)

kobracai

Opinion wrote: »

If there was money to be made then people would do it themselves. They're not going to tell you how to do it.

I'd suggest going back to the drawing board and look to go down a more traditional route, try and find a job with a marketing company so see if marketing is something you do actually have some skill in.

actually that's the main reason why I am doing it, to get marketing experience. I heard about this, that's why I thought of doing it. I heard it from a guy online called Jay Abraham if you want to google it

getting a job in marketing is my ultimate goal but I won't get it without marketing experience. Tried it for a long time to no avail. So doing some "grassroot marketing" in my spare time would have allowed me to get more experience and hopefully make some cash on the side

door to door leafleting could be an idea and I'm not above/too fussy for it, but you won't really learn much from it marketing-wise

Appreciate the advice

InsideInsurance

kobracai wrote: »

door to door leafleting could be an idea and I'm not above/too fussy for it, but you won't really learn much from it marketing-wise

Why wouldnt you?

As long as you can do large enough sample sizes so that the results are statistically relevant there is plenty you can learn about. If you cant think of at least a dozen things you could learn then you may need to question your readiness to offer any form of marketing services

kobracai

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Why wouldnt you?

As long as you can do large enough sample sizes so that the results are statistically relevant there is plenty you can learn about. If you cant think of at least a dozen things you could learn then you may need to question your readiness to offer any form of marketing services

another reason why I am not doing it is because my budget is pretty much not existent, producing samples is expensive, especially in a door to door selling environment which is a bit of a black whole

if you don't know what you do, you could easily spend £500 in leaflets/mini gifts and see no return at all. I can't afford that now

I am not being arrogant lol, I'm just trying to learn and see around what could be viable as a business for someone like me, an individual with no connections yet and pretty much little/no budget. I do have spare time though

kobracai

Actually, now that I think of it, the real question would be "how can I get some marketing/business development experience from scratch, the work my way up?", perhaps I was setting my aims too high with my previous posts

I may put a budget together, but not a massive one: perhaps £50, £100 top

I have done telemarketing and lead generation over the phone in the past with decent success, but looking more for face to face now

Thanks everyone for the input

InsideInsurance

Without qualifications and with what sounds like minimal experience (and to be blunt, possibly knowledge too) then you may be better off looking to get a normal job with either a small company or in a very federal larger company and offer to do marketing activities for them whilst on the job.

The Mrs used to work for a well known food vendor and each store was free to run whatever marketing/ promos it wanted in the local area as long as they hit their numbers. Through her work on creating those she became a store manager.

kobracai

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Without qualifications and with what sounds like minimal experience (and to be blunt, possibly knowledge too) then you may be better off looking to get a normal job with either a small company or in a very federal larger company and offer to do marketing activities for them whilst on the job.

The Mrs used to work for a well known food vendor and each store was free to run whatever marketing/ promos it wanted in the local area as long as they hit their numbers. Through her work on creating those she became a store manager.

Thanks, no offence taken, I am here to ask for feedback

I do have some experience, I work in Office and Client Management for the public sector and I’ve had a diverse work experience including telemarketing, I can PM my LinkedIN profile if you like? I got turned down for marketing jobs in the past because of lack of experience, especially face to face, which is one of the things I wanted to gain as well.

I have done nightclub promotion, but it’s a bit of a dog eat dog world, club owners tend to lie on the figures to avoid paying you, it’s all a bit dodgy so not something you can measure

Unlike your Mrs, I’d like to something part time if possible, even unpaid. My job is quite decent and I don’t feel like dumping it for a career that might or might not turn out well, gonna be hard to explain it at future job interviews