No Credit for a Full Tank of Calor Gas!!! Anyone Help

Dreamon_2

hermum wrote: »

I wouldn't consider I had got my money's worth by using the gas & having to open the windows because it's too hot, it sounds petty in the extreme.

It is petty to the extreme of that there is no doubt and its pretty extreme to use the world resourses too. All Im asking is that Calor Gas listens and does something about it. It's not a poxy car tank of fuel which by the way the garage selling the cars removes the fuel. Its a whopping great big chunk of money that when you buy the stuff you cant keep it, move it, use it nor legally sell it so you are stuck with it.
To anybody thinking about buying Calor then stick to the rule of putting the minimum amount in the tank at any one time. The delivery charge is the same whether a full or half tank. You can bet I'll be having many small deliveries when I next use a gas tank rather than filling up to the max. More world resources being used up and sorry about that but while the big boys are being allowed to make money for nothing we cant move forward.

Dreamon_2

Geodark wrote: »

Sorry to sound all moanie, but you havent listened to what has been said above have you - the difference is with gas from the pipe is that you are charged as you go and pay at the end of the period. With what you have you bought it in advance - so it is now yours. Do you expect them to buy it back? As said above what you really need to do is negotiate with the new owners and get them to pay for it. The car analogy is a good one - would you expect Shell to refund you unused petrol if you sold you car???

You obviously havent read what I've written. The gas is mine for sure but what can I do with it? I can try and sell to the next occupier but as said in another post it can be treated as part of the package like carpets and furnishings. BUT I shouldn't have to, that's the whole point of the subject. I dont expect Calor to buy it back but they can and have calculated the worth and they could adopt the gas and sell it again to the new occupier. They calculated what its worth from my reading so they know whats a stake, they dont even need to provide a delivery before selling it again. What's wrong with that!! Make sense to me, they make money, I get back some of my payment back (note the word some) the new owners wont know the difference between gas and adopted gas but the payment is the same. Hardly rocket science
As for the car analogy it's not the same thing. You can fill the car and then extract the 80 quids worth if you want. You CANT extract the gas from the tank other than by using it.

Dreamon_2

Ebe_Scrooge wrote: »

A very good analogy there When selling a car, most of us try to leave just the bare minimum in the tank, and when buying from a dealer try to negotiate a full tank thrown in for free. The principle is the same, only more so with gas or oil - you're talking several hundreds of pounds rather than maybe £50 - £70 or so.

What do you do to leave the bare minimum of fuel? Extract if from the tank? You cant do that with gas. Perhaps you have to drive around until empty. Such a waste.
£800 is a ton of money to me. £70/80 is something I can live with.

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Dreamon wrote: »

What do you do to leave the bare minimum of fuel? Extract if from the tank? You cant do that with gas. Perhaps you have to drive around until empty. Such a waste.
£800 is a ton of money to me. £70/80 is something I can live with.

If it such a huge sum of money why did you not contact Calor prior to the sale to query, read you contract or/and ask on the a forum???


On the first line of your original post you used the word 'thought' and it turned out you thought wrong... You purchased the gas, Calor do not do buy back gas and if you are like us there is no meter just a rough %%%.


As a side note when I bought this place I inherited £300 of gas in the tank, good selling point :-) Anyway got a heat pump installed and still cooking for 'free...'

ollski

You must have a very accurate gauge on your tank to calculate exact litres to be recredited for, mine is much cruder percentage marked.
One of my family members works with industrial gas and probably knows a process for emptying the tank and refilling another but I would imagine it probably exceeds the value of the gas.
Why make yourself uncomfortable to spite the buyers?, doubt they would even know of your efforts same as calor.

Nodding_Donkey

So you are sure the new owners wont buy the gas, but you want Calor to buy it off you and sell it to the new owners?

Ebe_Scrooge

Dreamon wrote: »

What do you do to leave the bare minimum of fuel? Extract if from the tank? You cant do that with gas. Perhaps you have to drive around until empty. Such a waste.
£800 is a ton of money to me. £70/80 is something I can live with.

When I sell a car I know a few weeks in advance that I'm going to sell it. So I use it as normal, and in the days leading up to the sale make sure I don't fill the tank, but just put enough in to do what I need to do. If I was to be really tight, I'd keep it on the red, and keep a jerry can in the boot. In reality, if I give away a quarter of a tank to the new owner then I can live with that.

With a house sale, you know a few months in advance that it's happening ( or at least that you're planning it ). So take the same approach. I don't know about gas, but certainly with oil, you get a better price if ordering more than 900 litres. So if I was to fill up my oil tomorrow, I'd order more than 900 litres to get the better price. But if I needed oil and knew I was selling the house soon, I'd just put in enough to last me a few weeks.

As you say in another post :

"To anybody thinking about buying Calor then stick to the rule of putting the minimum amount in the tank at any one time. The delivery charge is the same whether a full or half tank. You can bet I'll be having many small deliveries when I next use a gas tank rather than filling up to the max".

Sure, have a small delivery when you're close to selling, but when you know you're going to be there for some time it's more convenient to just fill up ( all other things being equal, and if you can take the lump sum hit ).

The bottom line is, buying oil or LPG or Calor works on a different model to mains gas. Mains gas is "On Demand", the others are "Up Front". Yes, it's a tad inconvenient, but you know this when you take on a property that's off-grid. The analogy of selling a tank of petrol with a car still holds - sure, the sums of money involved are different, but the principle is exactly the same.

Dreamon_2

Thank you for your post. No point in continuing with my post as I can see that everyone is missing the point. Calor gas is making lots of extra money from us as we are accepting it. They can shift the problem if they want but they make too much money doing nothing about it. Well done to them but I thought this forum would highlight that we are all being ripped off with the large companies yet again.
I'll just have to live with it until someone smarter than me can use influence to change things.
Bye the way my property was only on the market because a house came on the market that I wanted. I sold mine in less than a week because I work hard and it was sitting perfect. I didnt have time to use the gas and it was summer.

thozza

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Who precisely is missing the point?

Nodding_Donkey

Dreamon wrote: »

Calor gas is making lots of extra money from us as we are accepting it.

And this is the point you are missing completely. They are not making any extra money. They have sold the gas, they don't somehow magicly get it back when you move to sell to someone else.

You had the opportunity to factor the cost of the gas into the selling price of the house, just as the seller of a car can factor in a full tank of fuel.

If you didn't do that then you lose.

For all you know the buyer factored in the fact that the gas tank was full before making an offer.