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MPs debate Hospital Car Parking Charges, Monday 1 September c.5.00pm

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  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    By contrast some of the MPs who spoke were very up on the issues.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,510 Forumite
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    Q: When is a fine not a fine?
    A: When its a PPC charge dressed up as a fine
    A vast majority of people will be unable to understand that.
    Calling them Fines/Penalties although incorrect is much more emotive that referring to them as speculative invoices, calling them unlawful penalities and/or illegitimate ( or illegal) fines is closer to the truth, and its also better understood
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,627 Forumite
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    Just caught up after putting the debate on 'live pause' while having our evening meal.

    A bit of a curate's egg of a debate, but overall I'm reasonably satisfied with the way it went, especially as most of my concerns outlined in post #4 were covered, albeit without any of them being delivered a significantly damaging blow.

    I wonder what PE made of all of it?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    I doubt that PE will give a stuff - the gravy train continues to roll. The only people who might be sweating at all (and they have other reasons for a degree of insomnia) are Crapita. But then their "mates" in government continue to smooth the path for them, probably unwittingly, by allowing government spouters to use sloppy language and perpetuating the BPA myth. If such people repeatedly use the "f" and the "p" words in completely the wrong context what hope is there for the great majority of the public?

    Do we know the name of this twerp? I for one will drop him/her a line or three.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,627 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,627 Forumite
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    I liked this riposte to the BPA slavering on this.
    No one is suggesting that there is anything wrong with paying to park - the more so at a hospital. But being issued with a parking charge notice (which is neither a fine nor a penalty but simply an invitation to settle a purported civil debt) for £100 for overstaying because your husband was dying is hardly conscionable unless you are a private parking company with absolutely no investment to recover from the hospital car park (QE, Burton-on-Trent).
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    My contribution
    So BPA Ltd your answer to this is that charges should be brought in to increase investment in parking in Scotland & Wales? So with parking eye causing chaos in burton and other hospitals that is your answer, since when do companies like this contribute anything at all to anywhere they operate?

    The problem for you bpa is that you are the trade association to a cowboy industry intent of ripping people off, nobody believes you or Patrick Troye after the lies you said when pofa 2012 was being proposed, how many court cases were the industry supposed to be going to court?

    You and the industry you represent are liars and vermin it's that simple!
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    I predict a withdrawal of the comment function from the BPA blog. [/snigger]
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Umkomaas wrote: »

    And this man studied law !!!!!!.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
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