Council tenants from hell moved in next door to my house. Help/Advice needed.!!

Mojisola

bikingbarney wrote: »

The gran of the council trash family was saying "we are the R?:@~>es family dont fu@~ing mess with us"

The problem with getting anything done about families like this is that the council and the police know exactly how difficult they are and how intractable a problem they are so they aren't going to get involved unless you (and preferably a group of you) make a loss of fuss and keep the pressure on.

Coveredinbees!!!!

You have my sympathy. I live next to an unpleasant council tenant, the council don't want to know.

pmlindyloo

Have a read of this:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/housing_e/housing_problems_where_you_live_e/anti_social_behaviour_in_housing.htm

I have to agree that this is going to be a long drawn out process.

The council have to go through a certain procedure to evict the tenants - this can take forever.

I do agree that you need to be absolutely determined in this. The more neighbours who take part the better.

Do everything that is listed in the above link and in the above posts. Do not rely on one from of action. You need evidence of continual episodes of anti social behaviour. Because little is done in the short term, many people give up writing their diaries but it is vital that evidence is collected to be used in the future. The more diaries the better. The more calls logged to the police the better. The more visits from the local community police officer the better. The more letters written to your local council, your local MP, etc etc the better.

If you can, get a solicitor to write to the neighbours threatening court action.

Set up the CCTV cameras. Take photographs of the abusive children and family.

This will not be resolved in the near future. They have to be housed somewhere and in the end this problem is simply passed on to someone else. Unfortunately, neighbours from hell don't usually give a toss about anyone else than themselves but always play the 'vulnerable card' to get what they want.

PS. Make sure you have a copy of the local authority's policy on anti social behaviour and quote it in every letter you send to them. You have to be like a 'dog with a bone' and it takes time and a huge amount of determination.

Bantex_2

harrys_dad wrote: »

That is not correct, if the family are deemed to be intentionally homeless through being evicted twice for bad behaviour then the rehousing imperative disappears.

On a separate note, I find the use of the term "council trash" by the OP offensive. Yes they may be council tenants, yes they may act like "trash", but the two do not have a causal relationship.

That is the theory, but they do have to house the children, and no social services dept will advocate seprating the children from parents unless there is serious abuse. So in practise the council will have to house the family.

Voyager2002

Is there any kind of ethnic or national difference between the problem family and your tenant, or indeed any of the 'nice' neighbours who are suffering anti-social behaviour? Public sector organisations are obliged to pay attention to bad behaviour that may be a form of racial harassment, so perhaps this is something that you can use.

Bear in mind that all police forces are now answerable to an elected police commissioner, so you might care to write to this person to mention that they failed to attend when help was requested.

As for the original incident: if a child puts him/herself at risk of injury through being careless about traffic, then it is a good thing to express anger and frighten the child. Personally I would not do so by swearing but many people seem to need to use swearwords to express themselves emphatically. Complaining to the family was not appropriate: helping to educate the child to use the roads safely was actually the action of a good neighbour.

Finally, I find the term "Council trash" profoundly offensive. These people behave in an anti-social manner, and that is the problem. Many bankers and other wealthy people behave in this way, and are equally unacceptable.

Alias_Omega

bikingbarney wrote: »

So are you saying that the threats of bricks through windows and also threats on your life will have to become the norm???

They are not threatening you, so why care.

I think your emotionally attached to the house still. You have only heard 1 side of the story. I wonder if they moved to the area to change but no one is giving them time.

I live on a council estate. I have seen this, time is a healer.

Damage? Check your insurance policy to refresh yourself on your cover, however past experience tells me that there are 2 types of people Those who talk about it, and those just do it.

I am starting to think that you might be the tenant, seeking advice on what your landlord can do.

AO

SuzieSue

Alias_Omega wrote: »

They are not threatening you, so why care.

I think your emotionally attached to the house still. You have only heard 1 side of the story. I wonder if they moved to the area to change but no one is giving them time.

I live on a council estate. I have seen this, time is a healer.

Damage? Check your insurance policy to refresh yourself on your cover, however past experience tells me that there are 2 types of people Those who talk about it, and those just do it.

I am starting to think that you might be the tenant, seeking advice on what your landlord can do.

AO

What are you on about? If you don't believe the OP then stop reading the thread and stop posting ridiculous replies.


OP, don't even bother replying to AO - he/she is obviously a wind-up merchant.

caringa

Bantex wrote: »

This is between your tenant, the neighbours and the police and basically not your problem.

Totally disagree with this statement and just goes to show how some people can just turn a blind eye to what is going on around them. We are landlords and have had the same thing happen next door to our property. This tenant needs her landlords support - not someone who will turn their back on a problem that is "basically not theirs"!!

At the end of the day, if this disruptive family are allowed to stay, then the landlord will end up loosing a decent tenant and find it virtually impossible to relet it so the more he can help alleviate the problem the better for all concerned in my opinion.

Bantex_2

caringa wrote: »

Totally disagree with this statement and just goes to show how some people can just turn a blind eye to what is going on around them. We are landlords and have had the same thing happen next door to our property. This tenant needs her landlords support - not someone who will turn their back on a problem that is "basically not theirs"!!

At the end of the day, if this disruptive family are allowed to stay, then the landlord will end up loosing a decent tenant and find it virtually impossible to relet it so the more he can help alleviate the problem the better for all concerned in my opinion.

My point is that an absent landlord has no power or influence over the process of evicting the problem family. The tenant who has been directly affected may well have.

The argument that "your unruly tenants are affecting the return on my investment" is unlikely to have much clout.

Kesstra

bikingbarney wrote: »

Guys and Girls I am after some advice.

We have a property that we rent out, next door to it is a council house which up until a couple of months ago had a nice Polish girl living there.

The area where the houses are is a nice and friendly one where all the neighbors talk and have BBQ's out the front etc.

Anyway the Polish girl has moved out and bought her own house and the council have moved in a problem family from the really rough estate the other side of town.

Since then they have been non stop abusive to everyone in the close, blocking people in and telling them to "eff off" when they knock and ask them to move the car so they can get out. speeding up and down the close too.

It has come to a head now with our tenant who is a single mom with 3 kids as the council trash nearly ran over my tenants youngest child after he ran into the road to get his ball which resulted in the council trash swearing at the child which in my eyes is not on.

They have also threatened to put bricks through our windows and the council trash kids have also said "dont mess with us, we will kill you" to my tenants kids.

Last night my wife had a text from our tenant saying that she has called the police as they have been abusive to her again all down to her youngest child knocking on their door to ask for his ball back.The gran of the council trash family was saying "we are the R?:@~>es family dont fu@~ing mess with us"

The police where meant to turn up last night but didnt bother which is a poor show.

What can we do ??

We have contacted the councils housing people and they are aware of the family and the problems they are causing and are trying to find them a bigger home(currently 7 people in a 3 bed house. They have asked my tenant to keep a diary of events.

We are looking at selling the property but dont feel we should be pushed out of it because of this !!

I have had neighbours from hell in the past. Who were private renters. In fact ALL our nasty neighbours have been private renters.
I do understand nasty noisy abusive neighbours. I am still slightly shell shocked from 3 years ago.
However, I really don't think you should continue calling this family council trash.

MANY people live in council houses who are decent people. On the other hand, many private renters are very very nasty and often on benefits anyway.

1: You can have council families who work full time.
2: You can have private tenants who do not work and claim Housing Benefit.

Do not assume because someone is council they are trash or bad neighbours.

Good Luck to you and your tenants, I feel for your both I really really do.