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  • It all depends on how much is going on in the cranium, it worries me that at the club you have to say some things to members 3 or 4 times and it still doesn't always sink in but they are driving their cars on a daily basis. Make sure you have some heavy gauge metal around you !
    You scullion! You rampallian! You fustilarian! I’ll tickle your catastrophe (Henry IV part 2)
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence

    If you do any advanced driving training, there is a definite attempt to bring as much as possible back from unconscious-competence to conscious-competence, precisely because it helps the driver to focus on factors they may have ignored in transferring the mechanics to "autopilot".

    Bantex - at a guess, you've never done any AD, and I strongly suspect you'd benefit. I think you're at the unconscious-incompetence stage (especially wrt denial) of the advanced skills.
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence

    If you do any advanced driving training, there is a definite attempt to bring as much as possible back from unconscious-competence to conscious-competence, precisely because it helps the driver to focus on factors they may have ignored in transferring the mechanics to "autopilot".

    Bantex - at a guess, you've never done any AD, and I strongly suspect you'd benefit. I think you're at the unconscious-incompetence stage (especially wrt denial) of the advanced skills.


    Their are two further stages.
    5) Unconscious Ineptitude
    6) Conscious Ineptitude.
    You scullion! You rampallian! You fustilarian! I’ll tickle your catastrophe (Henry IV part 2)
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Their are two further stages.
    5) Unconscious Ineptitude
    6) Conscious Ineptitude.
    A few years ago I trained and qualified as a driving instructor, then gave up as I hated it. The vast majority of people stop being aware of what they (or anyone else on the road) is doing within a month or two of passing their test.
  • prowla
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    But if you were doing 50 in a 40 limit, the journey would take 36 minutes less. (2 hrs 24 minutes instead of 3 hours).

    If driving at 50 instead of 40 could be done safely, then a time saving of over half an hour could make it worthwhile for many people.
    Were there to be a single,straight, 40 limit road with no other traffic on it, then that would be true.

    But that is a theoretical maximum.

    However, most 40 roads have junctions, roundabouts, fellow road users, traffic lights, and other things to slow you down, which means that the actual time gain from being willing to drive up to 50 (ie. 25% faster) would be significantly less than that theoretical maximum.
  • brat
    brat Posts: 2,533 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence

    If you do any advanced driving training, there is a definite attempt to bring as much as possible back from unconscious-competence to conscious-competence, precisely because it helps the driver to focus on factors they may have ignored in transferring the mechanics to "autopilot".

    Bantex - at a guess, you've never done any AD, and I strongly suspect you'd benefit. I think you're at the unconscious-incompetence stage (especially wrt denial) of the advanced skills.
    This reminds me of (and is very closely associated with) the ancient saying...

    He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him.
    He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a child. Teach him.
    He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep. Wake him.
    He who knows and knows that he knows is wise. Listen to him.

    I follow the thinking that we have no ability to consciously choose. All our conscious mind does is become aware of things, which it can then pass to another part of the brain to make the decision. But we need our mind to be conditioned to best evaluate the information passed, and we need to condition our senses to look for the relevant information, both seen and unseen.
    Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    I would sincerely hope that there is NO unconscious decision-making going on! Subconscious on the other hand .... ;)
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