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I feel that upper open highway speed limits have taken away the decision making for many drivers.
They just aim for the 60mph or 70mph because in their minds that is the correct speed - and to hell with the conditions and whether a faster or slower speed would be more appropriate.
In places where are no speed limits I find that very few folks drive to the limit of their vehicle.
Some UK drivers couldn't cope with that - they need someone else to make the decisions and also someone else to blame if things go wrong.
A bit like the (perhaps apocryphal) story of the lady from London who didn't know where where to park in a little town in County Clare as there were no yellow lines.
In most European countries trucks are limited to 90kph (56mph) and the majority of car drivers seem happy to roll along at 120kph or 130kph without much resentment or questioning where those are the maximum.
Where there is no maximum (only a recommended 130kph) the majority of people do not exceed around the 120 to 130kph mark, and they remain alert for those who drive at considerably more.
I don't know what would happen if the UK removed the 70mph limit on our motorways or raised it to 80mph.
For those folks who read this and think that 'abroad doesn't matter' we need to realise that the EU is relentlessly moving towards standardization through similar rules and legislation throughout all twenty- eight countries.
The UK government is reluctant to speed up and the German government is equally against slowing down - but that's due to the national outcry there would be if Germans were to lose the right to drive in excess of 200mph.
A bit like the USofA citizens need to have the right to own guns.0 -
I would suspect that most don't have a clue how fast they are going or whether it is suitable for the conditions or not.
I disagree with that. As a nation we love to put our fellow motorist down. We never credit them with the skills and abilities we credit ourselves with. To everyone else, you and I are the other motorists
We avoid accidents every minute we drive. We probably take 10 to 20 collision avoiding decisions every mile, more in town, less on the open road. That means that the average low risk driver makes about 50 to 100 million collision avoiding decisions between each injury RTC. They must be doing something right!Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.0 -
No we don't.I disagree with that. As a nation we love to put our fellow motorist down. We never credit them with the skills and abilities we credit ourselves with. To everyone else, you and I are the other motorists
We avoid accidents every minute we drive. We probably take 10 to 20 collision avoiding decisions every mile, more in town, less on the open road. That means that the average low risk driver makes about 50 to 100 million collision avoiding decisions between each injury RTC. They must be doing something right!0 -
How do you see it then, because the way I see it, if I don't choose to brake, or choose to turn a corner, or choose to change course to avoid a parked car, I will collide.No we don't.
Do you disagree with the numbers, or the concept?Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.0 -
Anyone see this idea to reduce speeding - take away the white line road markings?
http://www.driving.co.uk/news/news-white-lines-may-be-rubbed-out-to-stop-drivers-speeding/
Would it work do you think?0 -
We make noting like that amount of conscious decisions. If you mean unconscious decisions that sort of agrees with my point that most do not think about what they are doing when driving.How do you see it then, because the way I see it, if I don't choose to brake, or choose to turn a corner, or choose to change course to avoid a parked car, I will collide.
Do you disagree with the numbers, or the concept?0 -
Anyone see this idea to reduce speeding - take away the white line road markings?
http://www.driving.co.uk/news/news-white-lines-may-be-rubbed-out-to-stop-drivers-speeding/
Would it work do you think?
Judging by the way locals drive the single track rural roads I grew up with, no. Tere may be a temporary effect while people got use to it but, once that happened, it'd be business as usual.0 -
Joe_Horner wrote: »Judging by the way locals drive the single track rural roads I grew up with, no. Tere may be a temporary effect while people got use to it but, once that happened, it'd be business as usual.
Exactly what I thought too.0 -
We make noting like that amount of conscious decisions.
Really? I'm conscious of everything I do behind the wheel, whether it's changing gear to maintain flexibility, slowing down, speeding up, checking mirrors, steering round a puddle or taking a bend. Some take more thought than others, but the moment I realise I've done something without being aware beforehand it's time for a break because I'm losing concentration!
If other people do these things genuinely unaware that starts to explain why so many of them get it wrong!0 -
We make nothing like that amount of conscious decisions. If you mean unconscious decisions that sort of agrees with my point that most do not think about what they are doing when driving.
Our conscious mind doesn't make decisions. All decisions we make are made in a much quicker, subconscious part of our brain and are always going to be in our best or least worst interest, in immediate reference to the parameters that are currently of value to us. Our consciousness later becomes aware of that choice. Our consciousness is an amalgam of all our senses, receiving information that informs our decision making processes, and becoming aware of decisions that we make.
We as individuals have responsibility for those choices, but they're not made by our conscious brain. That would be disastrous. It would take too long, and would much more likely be the wrong choice.
So, in the context of driving, decisions are taken in exactly the same way as any other decisions we make, quickly and subconsciously, some of which are so trivial as to hardly register, but many of them involve collision avoidance.
For driving, the important influences in all of this are...
a) The level of active awareness you bring to your drive, so that your conscious receptors can best inform your decision making processes, and
b) Your attitude and temperament.Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.0
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