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jewls
jewls Posts: 165 Forumite
hi


not sure if this site deals with this, but I have just put my van on autotrader on sun, early hours of monday morning I got an email of someone wanting to buy with out seeing, but needed more pictures, so duly did it, happy with them, with a lot of emails back and forth, he has transferred by paypal shipping fees and money for van into my bank, BUT paypall wont release the money until I pay the western union transfer fee, anyone else heard of this.


I know its a scam, but maybe a warning to others


just going to email him again to tell him to stop wasting my time.
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  • jewls wrote: »
    hi


    not sure if this site deals with this, but I have just put my van on autotrader on sun, early hours of monday morning I got an email of someone wanting to buy with out seeing, but needed more pictures, so duly did it, happy with them, with a lot of emails back and forth, he has transferred by paypal shipping fees and money for van into my bank, BUT paypall wont release the money until I pay the western union transfer fee, anyone else heard of this.


    I know its a scam, but maybe a warning to others


    just going to email him again to tell him to stop wasting my time.

    Cash is king.


    No cash, no sale.


    If it looks like a scam, walks like a scam and smells like a scam...
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,361 Forumite
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    Paypal won't take payment by western union, and if the money is in your paypal account it's available. So it sounds like a fake paypal site too.

    As said; cash in person.
  • jewls
    jewls Posts: 165 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Paypal won't take payment by western union, and if the money is in your paypal account it's available. So it sounds like a fake paypal site too.

    As said; cash in person.


    this is the last email he sent me



    I have already made the payment. The money was transferred from my
    paypal account to your bank account and the money has been deducted
    completely from my account and being held by paypal waiting for you to
    send the agent's fee before they release the fund into your bank
    account. PayPal also sent me an email and notified me that they have
    sent you payment confirmation emails in regards to the payment which i
    made,making you to know that you need to go and send the shipping
    agent's fee first before they credit your bank account with the full
    money. so please check your email very well, may be the paypal
    confirmation emails went to your Junk folder/box. Do let me know as
    soon as you have done the transfer to my shipping agent. Waiting to
    read from you soon.

    Regards,
    Steve.
  • EdGasket
    EdGasket Posts: 3,503 Forumite
    Don't ever accept Paypal for a large item like a car because even if the money is genuinely in your account now, the buyer can cliam it back later by saying he never received the goods, or they weren't as described.

    Tell him you will only take cash and be very careful about refunding the amount allegedly in Paypal; you might refund him and then he somehow cancels the original transfer. Ask paypal about it too before you do anything.

    As you suspected a scam, it's a pity it has gone this far but at least you haven't lost any money...yet!
  • comeandgo
    comeandgo Posts: 5,930 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    My car is on gumtree and minutes after it went on got a text message asking us to e mail them if car still for sale. I googled the e mail address given and others had also been contacted by this person and it was a scam. The following day had another text from someone, again googled the mobile number and was able to see this person was a trader. My suggestion is to google any info you have on the person contacting you.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,361 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    jewls wrote: »
    this is the last email he sent me



    I have already made the payment. The money was transferred from my
    paypal account to your bank account and the money has been deducted
    completely from my account and being held by paypal waiting for you to
    send the agent's fee before they release the fund into your bank
    account. PayPal also sent me an email and notified me that they have
    sent you payment confirmation emails in regards to the payment which i
    made,making you to know that you need to go and send the shipping
    agent's fee first before they credit your bank account with the full
    money. so please check your email very well, may be the paypal
    confirmation emails went to your Junk folder/box. Do let me know as
    soon as you have done the transfer to my shipping agent. Waiting to
    read from you soon.

    Regards,
    Steve.

    Interesting that he doesn't tell you to check paypal. It also leaves you wondering why he didn't pay the fees?
  • jewls wrote: »
    this is the last email he sent me



    I have already made the payment. The money was transferred from my
    paypal account to your bank account and the money has been deducted
    completely from my account and being held by paypal waiting for you to
    send the agent's fee before they release the fund into your bank
    account. PayPal also sent me an email and notified me that they have
    sent you payment confirmation emails in regards to the payment which i
    made,making you to know that you need to go and send the shipping
    agent's fee first before they credit your bank account with the full
    money. so please check your email very well, may be the paypal
    confirmation emails went to your Junk folder/box. Do let me know as
    soon as you have done the transfer to my shipping agent. Waiting to
    read from you soon.

    Regards,
    Steve.


    The crap English coupled with a nice English-sounding 'Steve' should tell you everything you need to know.
  • jewls
    jewls Posts: 165 Forumite
    comeandgo wrote: »
    My car is on gumtree and minutes after it went on got a text message asking us to e mail them if car still for sale. I googled the e mail address given and others had also been contacted by this person and it was a scam. The following day had another text from someone, again googled the mobile number and was able to see this person was a trader. My suggestion is to google any info you have on the person contacting you.



    thanks


    just done that and his name came up, my bank has been alerted as I very foolishly gave him my account detail tut tut, never done this type of thing before but you live and learn, one thing I would not of given any money over
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    jewls wrote: »
    this is the last email he sent me



    I have already made the payment. The money was transferred from my
    paypal account to your bank account and the money has been deducted
    completely from my account and being held by paypal waiting for you to
    send the agent's fee before they release the fund into your bank
    account. PayPal also sent me an email and notified me that they have
    sent you payment confirmation emails in regards to the payment which i
    made,making you to know that you need to go and send the shipping
    agent's fee first before they credit your bank account with the full
    money. so please check your email very well, may be the paypal
    confirmation emails went to your Junk folder/box. Do let me know as
    soon as you have done the transfer to my shipping agent. Waiting to
    read from you soon.

    Regards,
    Steve.
    Ignore ignore!!!!
  • EdGasket wrote: »
    Tell him you will only take cash and be very careful about refunding the amount allegedly in Paypal; you might refund him and then he somehow cancels the original transfer. Ask paypal about it too before you do anything.

    There is no original transfer, it is a scam.
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