Is this descrimination legal?

Mishomeister

CKhalvashi wrote: »

I have to say, I really do agree with this.

My main concern when recruiting is whether someone is a good match for the company based on experience and what we need, rather than rigidly sticking to a job description, rather than looking for the 'perfect candidate' according to the description and sticking with that rigidly. No discrimination there, just occasionally on behalf of the jobseeker bad luck.

That's a good point. Why some ethnical minorities have a higher percentage of Solicitors or GPs but some other monorities have a higher percentage of criminals? They all had the same opportunities as both are minorities.

Southend1

Bantex wrote: »

So you also wish to exclude Jewish people fro the debate?

Don't forget Muslims don't drink alcohol so they can't join in either!

Southend1

Mishomeister wrote: »

That's a good point. Why some ethnical minorities have a higher percentage of Solicitors or GPs but some other monorities have a higher percentage of criminals? They all had the same opportunities as both are minorities.

I don't think that you can necessarily say that they all had the same opportunities. A lot depends on family attitudes, culture and upbringing

Mishomeister

Southend1 wrote: »

I don't think that you can necessarily say that they all had the same opportunities. A lot depends on family attitudes, culture and upbringing

Maybe it's the time for them to change their attitudes and culture if this makes you less competitive in the employment market. You can't change your race or gender but I would never tolerate a person who is saying that I did not chose to become a criminal etc but my parent's are guilty of this hence they were criminals though I did not have a choice.

Southend1

Mishomeister wrote: »

Maybe it's the time for them to change their attitudes and culture if this makes you less competitive in the employment market. You can't change your race or gender but I would never tolerate a person who is saying that I did not chose to become a criminal etc but my parent's are guilty of this hence they were criminals though I did not have a choice.

You're right, attitudes can change, BUT you can't choose your family.

Mishomeister

Southend1 wrote: »

You're right, attitudes can change, BUT you can't choose your family.

I came from a poor family and this did not stop me from succeeding in a foreign country and without any special interships descriminating against the others. So I can hardly see why there should be any for BAE people who are native speakers.

To be honnest I am much more frustrated the intership is not awailable for my wife who has a full rigth to work in UK as this intership is only awailable forBritish citizens. Their rules are descriminating against the people who are even less represented in UK Creative industry.


To be honnest I am much more fruastrated the intership is not awailable for my wife who has a full rigth to work in UK and has a UK Master degree as this intership is only available for British citizens. Their rules are descriminating against the people who are even less represented in UK Creative industry.

Southend1

I don't think coming from a poor family is a disadvantage at all in many ways. It's more about attitudes to education and work and life in general.

dippy3103

Southend1 wrote: »

I don't think coming from a poor family is a disadvantage at all in many ways. It's more about attitudes to education and work and life in general.

Exactly that.

theoretica

I strongly suspect that this internship is not an opportunity which is being denied to white people - but rather an opportunity specially created for ethnic minorities. If they were not permitted to restrict the applicants I doubt anyone would get the funded internship.

As with the academic roles mentioned earlier, I can see that for some jobs an aspect of the job includes 'role model'. As we have not yet got to the stage where Patrick Moore is or was held up as a role model for girls interested in science gender, race and other protected characteristics may be very relevant and part of the job. In some cases it will be possible to recruit the best person from the applicants available for a senior job, but if good applicants with the desired characteristics are not applying then efforts further downstream are needed. One less controversial example is when a youth orchestras had a shortage of cellists so free cello lessons were organised in local primary schools. It isn't a perfect match as the kids of course had the option to choose free cello lessons or pay for trumpet lessons, but does show an example of addressing a shortage of applicants several years earlier in their careers.

theoretica

To contribute to the legal question, the civil service appear to think something similar is legal
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/civil-service/about/equality-and-diversity

'We will not unlawfully discriminate in any aspect of employment[...]Summer Diversity Internship schemes to welcome in young people from diverse backgrounds. "