Renting a house from parents and housing benefit

Indie_Kid

pleasedelete wrote: »

Lots of people with my condition post on here that they cant work- you can with the right working conditions and the right treatments.

Er, can she? Yes, some people with Bi Polar and /or Fibromyalgia can work; but not all.

pleasedelete

Indie_Kid wrote: »

Er, can she? Yes, some people with Bi Polar and /or Fibromyalgia can work; but not all.

I was talking about the condition that I have which isn't one of those. It is a life limiting illness which has required extensive surgery over the years- as I said treatments change. 30 years ago I was told I would be dead by now- I am not. The OPs position may change- treatments may change-in making an large move you need to think through the long term position as well as the short.

Giving up social housing is a big step. You wont get it back (at least not easily). You are out in the private rented market- short term tenancies, constant moving - no security etc. The OPs parents may not be able to rent to her long term as they may not be able to afford it/ may have to sell etc etc

As I said- have you ruled out trying to get a move to social housing near them?

Indie_Kid

pleasedelete wrote: »

I was talking about the condition that I have which isn't one of those. It is a life limiting illness which has required extensive surgery over the years- as I said treatments change. 30 years ago I was told I would be dead by now- I am not. The OPs position may change- treatments may change-in making an large move you need to think through the long term position as well as the short.

On the flip side, my parents were told 21 years ago that I was untreatable, that's still the case...

It was more your assumption that the OP could work. Yet, you (none of us do) don't know her full situation. I've met people with Bi Polar who are working and have met others who can't.

missbiggles1

Indie_Kid wrote: »

On the flip side, my parents were told 21 years ago that I was untreatable, that's still the case...

It was more your assumption that the OP could work. Yet, you (none of us do) don't know her full situation. I've met people with Bi Polar who are working and have met others who can't.

The OP was working up to a few months ago.

Housing_Benefit_Officer

Indie_Kid wrote: »

On the flip side, my parents were told 21 years ago that I was untreatable, that's still the case...

It was more your assumption that the OP could work. Yet, you (none of us do) don't know her full situation. I've met people with Bi Polar who are working and have met others who can't.

Bi-Polar affects people in hugely different ways. It is easy for someone with no medical training and very little daily contact with people with the condition to make assumptions. Even a person with Bi-Polar could be affected in a completely different way to another person. They could say I have it and I work and keep it under control with medication so why can't that person do the same.

seven-day-weekend

The only way you would get HB for this property is a) if it is up for rental on the open market (or has been), b) if they charge you the same rent they would charge anyone else and c) if they would evict you if you didn't pay.

In other words, it has to be proven to be a proper commercial rental business, not just a place used to help their daughter out, which would never be rented to anyone else should said daughter move on.

FBaby

It sounds like it is another instance of playing the system where those who know the rules and do all the thing to tick the boxes get accepted when they might have no more intention to rent at market value or kick the family member out of they were in significant arrears than another applicant who is honest about their intentions.

jetplane

Thank the Lord for HBO with an informed and accurate reply(and pmlindyloo).

Yes it is that simple and it has been a common occurrence for many years, it used to be easier to decide that the tenancy was contrived and refuse benefit but these were frequently overturned at appeal.

So as long as the parents can demonstrate a commercial tenancy then many LA's don't even question it. So yes if you can afford to buy a house to let and want a reliable tenant (or not as the case may be) you can rent it out to family who can then claim housing benefit.

What difference is it if it is your daughter that lives there? What if your daughter or other tenant worked, paid the rent and then lost their job? No difference, they would have to claim benefit. Does it make a difference if the OP's housing benefit is paid in London or Cornwall?

As for playing the system, I don't see the outrage. Landlords buy properties to rent out all of the time and housing benefit foot the bill.

Personally, Landlords receiving extortionate rents through housing benefit, for multiple shabby properties, offends me so much more.

seven-day-weekend

I personally don't see what difference it makes whether they pay the OP's Housing Benefit in London or Cornwall (except that it will probably be less in Cornwall), or who the Landlord is, but was just giving what I thought to be the rules.

nannytone_2

Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »

The only saving grace was CJs cafe along Green Lane - cheapest meals that were massive - I'm sure they were responsible for several inches on the waistline - are they still there?

I was depressed in Ilford as I gradually became an ethnic minority with no neighbours speaking English. The Jamiacan lady opposite used to come over for meals so she had someone who would talk English with her. Downsides were after planting out both her an my front gardens someone came along and stole all the plants a few hours later. I put a doormat outside my house and someone stole that a few hours later. I was so happy when I sold up and moved.

small world!
CJ's was owned by friends of mine ( frank and miriam) and i worked for them for 6 years! bloody hard work but we always had a good laugh. i worked there from 1995-2001, they also had another cafe further along near the white hart. they sold up and moved back to cyprus . the new owners werent anywhere near as good, both to the staff anf with the food. im sure its still there though as frank only sold the business but leased the premises, im sure it was for 15 years. CJ's is technically 7 kings rather than ilford though