cost of logs ???

timehastoldme

Hengus wrote: »

You do not indicate your area of residence. This link might provide people to call:

http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/services/firewood-suppliers.html

A local supplier in Worcestershire provides seasoned logs at £65 per builder's bag. Personally, I prefer to buy kiln-dried logs. They are slightly more expensive but I find that they produce less smoke and a hotter stove.

I don't suppose you'd be willing to say who from would you? We are looking to buy and getting overwhelmed by choice!

justjohn

As someone else has said, just remember a builders bag can be anything from 0.53 m3 to 1m3


We get 5 cube at start of winter(hardwood) £250 delivered. I cannot get the price lower.


5 cube(approx.) should look like this (we do not get them from there) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151380577034


I would strongly advise anyone purchasing firewood they get to grips with m3 measurements. If logs are delivered in a tipper/trailer a simple bit of maths can work out what you are getting.


When you purchase logs they can sometimes be 1-2 cube out, so its a good bit of money/wood you are loosing out on.


When I buy 5 cube I ask what they are being delivered in. Many sellers need to do 2 trips, also gives me an idea if I am getting what I pay for lol

Chimney_Sweep_3

about 3cum is max for a transit size tipper,

Ectophile

Just to add to the confusion, the "cubic metre" is normally loose filled. That means they just chuck logs into the back of the truck until it's full.

By the time you've carefully stacked the logs in your log store, you will find that it's rather less than a cubic metre of actual wood.

Greenfires

...and to add a little more - in response to Anthony's post - kd logs are certainly the most expensive you can buy - that doesn't always mean they're the driest, or best by any means! Most commercial driers work to an average mc of 20%. In a good drying year, naturally seasoned logs are often drier AND cheaper! Most kiln operators are processing 24/7 - using timber straight from the forest - it's a quick turnaround in and out job, but the wood is drier than it was when it went in, and it's been in a kiln. Hence "kiln dried" and all the gumph about "best logs you can buy" etc etc. Little more than clever marketing in actual fact.

And of course, kd logs are positively soggy at the side of briquettes, which offer far more available energy per kilo, and far more heating power packed into a fraction of the storage space.

Out of interest - the hardwood/softwood thing doesn't really apply with briquettes nearly as much as with logs. Because they're compressed to pretty much the same density for feedstock of either type, the energy content is very similar for either if it's being made in the same machine. Hardwood and softwood have very similar energy contents per kilo - the only difference is that softwoods are generally much less dense, so a softwood log has less energy than a hardwood log of the same volume. Obviously there are variations between manufacturers - there are a lot of very poor briquettes on the market - far too soft due to being made in cheap machinery. The clever customers buy on performance as they know an "expensive" briquette will often work out cheaper to use as it lasts so much longer - the others buy on price alone.

Alycidon

As in all things you get what you pay for.

I sell stoves but have had to also now sell firewood due to the large amount of poor quality logs in my local market. I now sell around 200 tonnes a year.

They key issue is the moisture content, you want 16% or below. The countries leading kiln Dried seller last winter was advising a moisture level of 20% - 22%. That will give acceptable results yes but the drier the log the less energy is lost evaporating off the remaining moisture in the log, so the more heat is obtained.

My air dried logs are currently going out at around 10%- 12%.

As others have said builders bags vary from around .4 cu meter up to 900x900x900 which is .729 of a cubic meter. The material those bags are made from does not let air through to dry freshly split logs which will then tend to go mouldy.

Dedicated firewood bags have ventilated sides, are normally a nominal 1 cu m in volume and when filled the sides expand so have an internal volume of around 1.2 cu meters.

Logs need to be split before any serious drying can take place as the bark is waterproof, rain cant get in when growing and moisture cant get out after felling. My tree trunks sit for around a year in a large heap, they are then processed into firewood and sold about 18 months later. Most merchants sell as fast as they can.

Kiln dried is also not necessarily as dry as air dried, it just depends on how long it has been in the kiln.

A

Flugelhorn

I visit various places locally to have a look at the logs (tend to buy them in smaller bags as easier to handle and store) - armed with my moisture meter... best places are quite happy for me to check the wood

michaelgordon

can anyone recommend seller in manchester for logs only need 1m3 bag as i have already bought a quarter pallet of briquettes and also have some left over from last winter and have about half a store roughly 1m3 bag of what was wet logs (supposedly seasoned)

StevenMarks

In Northumberland I pay £80 for a trailer load; when neatly stacked in wood store it is about 2.2m3

A._Badger

Alycidon wrote: »

As in all things you get what you pay for.
A

You know, if that were true there would be no need at all for MSE.

I agree with everything else you said, though. Sadly, the fashion craze for stoves has seen the price of everything to do with them rocket - and the quality of much of the wood sold to fuel them, to plummet.

Personally, I don't waste my money on 'kiln dried' logs. I buy the best I can get and store them until they are fit to burn.