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How to reason out of a PCN? Upset

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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Ignoring the semantics, you can either pay £X now or more if you leave it. Going up or losing the discount, who cares what it is called?

    The poster hasn't said anything to suggest there is even a faint chance of a successful appeal to the council.

    There is no semantics, you are wrong its that simple! And as you have no idea what could be used in this case to appeal against this, I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself, we simply do not have the information that could determine if there is something wrong with the PCN, the signs, the TRO or a myriad other things that could get this cancelled
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 9 August 2014 at 11:31AM
    There is (sic) no semantics, you are wrong its (sic) that simple! And as (sic) you have no idea what could be used in this case to appeal against this,

    That is a bit strong, if something costs £x now and £x + 10 percent in two weeks time the price has assuredly gone up. Also LTP has not suggested that the OPs case is without merit, only that nothing he has posted leads us to believe that it has.

    I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself,

    Over 7,500 post and still ignorant of how internet fora work!
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    The_Deep wrote: »
    There is (sic) no semantics, you are wrong its (sic) that simple! And as (sic) you have no idea what could be used in this case to appeal against this,

    That is a bit strong, if something costs £x now and £x + 10 percent in two weeks time the price has assuredly gone up. Also LTP has not suggested that the OPs case is without merit, only that nothing he has posted leads us to believe that it has.

    I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself,

    Over 7,500 post and still ignorant of how internet fora work!

    Sorry but giving out wrong advice should be responded too! If its a bit strong so be it. And please The Deep, don't take my comment out of context, its on this situation that I said to keep the opinion to themselves because its wrong!
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    But is he wrong? I do not think so.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    The_Deep wrote: »
    But is he wrong? I do not think so.

    Yes he is because the penalty does not go up, the penalty is for £90 (or so) discounted to £45 (or so) for a number of days, the discount goes not the penalty going up. Also most councils will allow an informal appeal to be given, and then re-offer the discount if it rejects
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    ... the discount goes not the penalty going up.

    Not sure that I understand.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    The penalty is for £90 in my example above, if it's discounted by 50% it takes it to £45, but the penalty is still £90 no matter what. So by removing the discount it reverts to what it was to begin with.

    My opinion is that most tickets should be appealed as most are cancelled when properly appealed, the advice on going to pepipoo is the best option as they can say if it has a good chance of winning.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    ... removing the discount it reverts to what it was to begin with.

    No, to begin with it was discounted.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Yes discounted , but the penalty was still the full amount. An analogy would be if there was a sale on in a shop offering something for 50% off for 14 days , after the sale period has the price gone up or has the 50% sale period has ended ?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    after the sale period has the price gone up or has the 50% sale period has (sic) ended ?

    Both.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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