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How to Join the EU in 35 'Simple' Steps

This is how Iceland is going on joining the EU. The process started in 2009:

http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/41448/Icelands-application-for-membership-to-the-EU/#vars!date=2009-11-25_06:45:52!

3 years later, negotiations started on Chapters 3&4.

The 35 Chapters up for negotiation are listed here:

http://eu.mfa.is/negotiations/chapters/

For one of the Chapters, on Financial Services, the Directives and Legislation required to be passed into law are listed here:

http://eu.mfa.is/media/ESB/samningskaflar/09/NegPosICEch09_FINAL_08052012.pdf

Here are the 17 documents the Icelandic Government has prepared in response to the EU's proposals:

http://eu.mfa.is/negotiations/chapters/9/

This is before anything at all in the financial services sector has been agreed to allow that part of EU entry to be ticked off.

Reckon a brand new Government with no experience of these negotiations could do all this plus finish the negotiations in 18 months? I don't.

Don't forget, Iceland is already in the EEA so is already broadly compliant with EU law.

I wonder how Scotland would get on within the 18 month deadline they have set themselves? 2 weeks for each chapter to be entirely resolved.
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  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    This is how Iceland is going on joining the EU. The process started in 2009:

    http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/41448/Icelands-application-for-membership-to-the-EU/#vars!date=2009-11-25_06:45:52!

    3 years later, negotiations started on Chapters 3&4.

    The 35 Chapters up for negotiation are listed here:

    http://eu.mfa.is/negotiations/chapters/

    For one of the Chapters, on Financial Services, the Directives and Legislation required to be passed into law are listed here:

    http://eu.mfa.is/media/ESB/samningskaflar/09/NegPosICEch09_FINAL_08052012.pdf

    Here are the 17 documents the Icelandic Government has prepared in response to the EU's proposals:

    http://eu.mfa.is/negotiations/chapters/9/

    This is before anything at all in the financial services sector has been agreed to allow that part of EU entry to be ticked off.

    Reckon a brand new Government with no experience of these negotiations could do all this plus finish the negotiations in 18 months? I don't.

    Don't forget, Iceland is already in the EEA so is already broadly compliant with EU law.

    I wonder how Scotland would get on within the 18 month deadline they have set themselves? 2 weeks for each chapter to be entirely resolved.
    If the EU want you in they will ignore most of this stuff. The have admitted total basket cases. The politics override the procedures.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    If the EU want you in they will ignore most of this stuff. The have admitted total basket cases. The politics override the procedures.

    :huh:For whom have they ignored all this stuff?:huh:
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    :huh:For whom have they ignored all this stuff?:huh:
    Doubt we will ever know, but I find it hard to believe Greece ticked all the boxes.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Doubt we will ever know, but I find it hard to believe Greece ticked all the boxes.

    So you're making it all up

    Why not? After all this is the interwebs. At least you admit it. Good on you for that.:j
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Doubt we will ever know, but I find it hard to believe Greece ticked all the boxes.





    as you know Greece joined in 1981 so I guess things have changed a bit since then
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Doubt we will ever know, but I find it hard to believe Greece ticked all the boxes.



    or we could take the example of Latvia




    Latvia replaced its previous currency, the lats, with the euro on 1 January 2014,[1] after a European Union (EU) assessment in June 2013 asserted that the country had met all convergence criteria necessary for euro adoption. The adoption process began 1 May 2004, when Latvia joined the European Union, entering the EU's Economic and Monetary Union. At the start of 2005, the lats was pegged to the euro at Ls 0.702804 = €1, and Latvia joined the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM ll), four months later on 2 May 2005.[2]





  • IronWolf
    IronWolf Posts: 6,430 Forumite
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    But I thought Salmond said they wont have to apply, they get 'auto membership'!

    It would be very interesting to see what happened if they werent in the EU, it would be a great case study for the rUK before the in/out referendum!
    Faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    So you're making it all up

    Why not? After all this is the interwebs. At least you admit it. Good on you for that.:j
    Are you saying that no deals are ever done within the EU behind closed doors, that the citizens never know about?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Are you saying that no deals are ever done within the EU behind closed doors, that the citizens never know about?



    do you know of a single state that has joined the EU in 18 months?
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    do you know of a single state that has joined the EU in 18 months?

    No, but I suspect that if it suited the EU establishment as part of "The Project", it would be done.
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