Failed MOT- Seatbelt

Joe_Horner

Hintza wrote: »

Following the same logic you don't need to worry about headlamps because you don't drive in the dark!

If you don't drive in the dark or reduced visibiliy you don't need to worry about headlamps. Or sidelights, indicators or brake lights.

If you present a car for MOT wih no lights at all fitted then, provided you've covered the holes to preven sharp edges, it'll pass. An advisory sheet will also be issued stating that the vehicle must only be used during daylight hours and not used a times of seriously reduced visibiliy.

The basic test for this is whether or not side lights (position marker lights) are fitted. If they're not then all other lamps are optional. But if any stop lights or indicators are fitted then they must work even if optional.

Optional headlights aren't tested except for the aim of dipped beams, so you could have no side lights fitted, one working (and properly adjusted) dipped beam, and one high beam shining a green light on the other side.

It's a pass and advise

Wig

Hermione_Granger wrote: »

That logic would be sound providing that the use of headlamps was only legally required when driving in the dark.
As this isn't the case, the comparison is flawed.
You can easily avoid driving with rear seat passengers.
Unless you are psychic, you can't guarantee that you won't end up driving in conditions of very poor visibility.

You can guarantee that by pulling over and stopping if conditions are such that headlights would be required for safe driving. Obviously, no driving at all after dark.

Working headlamps are not legally required on a vehicle that has no front and rear position lights. The comparison is not flawed. But I would say to Hintza who made the comparison....

"Yes, and your point is?"

Wig

Joe_Horner wrote: »

The basic test for this is whether or not side lights (position marker lights) are fitted. If they're not then all other lamps are optional. But if any stop lights or indicators are fitted then they must work even if optional.

The basic test is -I believe- whether or not the vehicle has "front and rear position lights" Which I took to mean the tail lights and the dipped beam front lights (but it could mean the front "sidelights" i.e. the small white light to the *front* known as the "sidelight").

mrmechanic

Wig wrote: »

The basic test is -I believe- whether or not the vehicle has "front and rear position lights" Which I took to mean the tail lights and the dipped beam front lights (but it could mean the front "sidelights" i.e. the small white light to the *front* known as the "sidelight").

Front position lights are the side lights, as the dipped beam would be headlamps