Paypal deposit paid for car, can I get it back?

Parisien

I've won a car, despite initial email/text/phone contacts and after receiving a paypal deposit (stating in the message it was for the item numbered item off ebay), the seller after 10 days (contacted by all methods above every day) hasn't give me its registration number nor their home address for collection, can I get my deposit back?

FidgitsID

Parisien wrote: »

I've won a car, despite initial email/text/phone contacts and after receiving a paypal deposit (stating in the message it was for the item numbered item off ebay), the seller after 10 days (contacted by all methods above every day) hasn't give me its registration number nor their home address for collection, can I get my deposit back?

Did you send the deposit as a "gift" or "goods/services" payment ?

Parisien

Goods and services, almost certain, but it doesn't say on completed transaction info for definite if it was, but honestly believe I did say goods and services

soolin

Parisien wrote: »

Goods and services

I have a niggling worry in the back of my mind that there is no buyer protection with car depositis- however, I may well be wrong. Give it a try though, log into paypal and claim money back on the basis that item has not been received.

Parisien

I know theres no protection for car buying, but is it when all monies paid over and you find car isn't as described, but not gotten it yet nor do I know where it is!

shaun_from_Africa

FidgitsID wrote: »

Did you send the deposit as a "gift" or "goods/services" payment ?

As far as getting the money back through the Paypal buyer protection procedure, how the money was sent won't make much of a difference.

This is because the payment isn't protected for 2 reasons.
There is no paypal protection for vehicles and even if there was, you lose any protection if you make a partial payment for a deposit. Payment must be made in one full single transaction to make it eligible.

Parisien,
How was your payment funded? (Credit or debit card etc), as you may be able to get your card issuer to do a chargeback for the money.

FidgitsID

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

As far as getting the money back through the Paypal buyer protection procedure, how the money was sent won't make much of a difference.

This is because the payment isn't protected for 2 reasons.
There is no paypal protection for vehicles and even if there was, you lose any protection if you make a partial payment for a deposit. Payment must be made in one full single transaction to make it eligible.

Parisien,
How was your payment funded? (Credit or debit card etc), as you may be able to get your card issuer to do a chargeback for the money.

Yup, quite correct, I knew ebay would not be interested, but paypal wont cover it at all either :-(

https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full

Parisien

Payment method:
£5.81 GBP – PayPal Account
£194.19 GBP - ulster x-xxxx
Backup Payment Method:
MasterCard/Eurocard Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX


On the paypal statement.

Why are sellers allowed to ask for a deposit on their adverts then?

Parisien

Can I start a claim back anyways to show I've used every means to get it back and then go to a small claims court?

Ebay dont give the sellers full address but post code is available.

FidgitsID

Parisien wrote: »

Ebay dont give the sellers full address but post code is available.

ebay allow buyers/sellers to request each others details using this form-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/ebayadvsearch/?_sofindtype=9

note - the seller will also get your details

soolin

Parisien wrote: »

Payment method:
£5.81 GBP – PayPal Account
£194.19 GBP - ulster x-xxxx
Backup Payment Method:
MasterCard/Eurocard Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX


On the paypal statement.

Why are sellers allowed to ask for a deposit on their adverts then?

Ebay do not monitor listings they rely on buyers keeping themselves safe.

If this is a scam I have not come across it before and wonder if you just have a really dim seller.

Has seller still got any live listings, and what is their feedback like?