POPLA appeal letter for comment - for stopping / waiting

Chriswt

I received a letter from ParkDirect UK and recently sent off an appeal as per the advice on this site.

As expected it was rejected and now I'm going to appeal via POPLA.

However although the advice on here is amazing :T I'm slightly overwhelmed by the amount of it and am starting to worry about what I should 'cut and paste' in my appeal letter

Is there a template letter containing the 'must have' statements and a guide on where to customise it for your own appeal circumstances?

My personal circumstances are simple

1. Grace period only 39 seconds :mad:
2. Signage genuinely obstructed by overhanging tree
3. Signage positioned in the middle of the yellow 'no waiting' hatched area (so you have to drive on it to read it!!!).
4. Contravention time on original notice differs from photo evidence


I also have a revange plan which I'll disclose later!

Redx

see the links in post #3 of the NEWBIES sticky thread , loads of them there

Guys_Dad

The current "must have" is no genuine pre-estimate of loss (GPEOL in our terminology).

Your best bet is to read the NEWBIES thread with ref to the POPLA appeals templates as well as other recent ones on page 1 & 2 of this forum that have been put up for checking.

Personally, I would keep the GPEOL relevant and not run to so many pages as some have done. You can look at previous comments I have made on GPEOL by clicking on my name and "read other posts".

Also, look at the last 2 or 3 pages of the POPLA Decisions thread to see what assessors have written as to why they have allowed GPEOL appeals.

Chriswt

Thank you for your replies.

Shall I upload my appeal letter on this post or start a new one for checking?

Nodding_Donkey

Upload it to this one

The_Slithy_Tove

Chriswt wrote: »

1. Grace period only 39 seconds :mad:

That alone is worth a strong complaint to the BPA Ltd, as it's a clear breach of the code of practice. Insist that they investigate and apply appropriate sanctions to this company who are serial offenders, and pay scant regard to the code of practice. More borderline criminal activity (breaching their KADOE contract with the DVLA and thus breaching DPA every day) from this well known and despised PPC.


And if this is a 39 second overstay based on ANPR information, then add to your POPLA appeal a challenge regarding the accuracy of their ANPR information. There are examples around. There are known inaccuracies with the systems used by most PPCs.

Chriswt

Guys_Dad wrote: »

The current "must have" is no genuine pre-estimate of loss (GPEOL in our terminology).

One difference between where my 'contravention' occured and others is that it was not in a car park.

It was on yellow hatched lines where no stopping or parking is permitted therefore do I need to adjust the GPEOL to state that there cannot be a loss from an area that does not generate an income from paying users?

DollyDee_2

Was this at Uxbridge?

Sorry, just realised Uxbridge is Park Direct's address (doh).

Chriswt

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

And if this is a 39 second overstay based on ANPR information, then add to your POPLA appeal a challenge regarding the accuracy of their ANPR information. There are examples around. There are known inaccuracies with the systems used by most PPCs.

I assume that a ANPR wasn't used as the picture zoomed in on the car rather than a blanket view of the controled area. Here is one of the photos:

Redx

I suspect its a private road or car park with roads, not the public highway , otherwise why would a PPC be involved ? if POPLA is involved then its definitely private land

if you read pranksters blogs he fully explains anpr and the types of pictures it uses , which this isnt

so I suspect a PPC operative has taken pictures of this "rule-breaking" , like JAS do when people go "off site"

in a nutshell, they are possibly using parking rules to try to enforce road issues on private land, like APCOA and VCS etc at the airports (but airports have local bylaws whereas this place probably hasnt got bylaws)

Chriswt

Redx wrote: »

I suspect its a private road or car park with roads, not the public highway , otherwise why would a PPC be involved ? if POPLA is involved then its definitely private land

if you read pranksters blogs he fully explains anpr and the types of pictures it uses , which this isnt

so I suspect a PPC operative has taken pictures of this "rule-breaking" , like JAS do when people go "off site"

in a nutshell, they are possibly using parking rules to try to enforce road issues on private land, like APCOA and VCS etc at the airports (but airports have local bylaws whereas this place probably hasnt got bylaws)

It is a private road which just off Goldhawk Road High Street. My father in law owns the building on the corner behind the tree and so I suspect ParkDirectUK have only been in operation there recently.

I guess the land is owned by the landlord who owners the houses and flats at the end of this dead end road.