Individual Electoral Registration – changes voting registration

usefulmale

KittaKatta wrote: »

Hi, my husband has always opted out of the register. Several weeks ago (before we received the letter) we however realized that his details are now available on sites such as 192.com :eek:. They were not before. The letter he received mentions that the details are not on the open register. How can we ensure that they are also not visible on such sites? We originally contacted the council but never received a reply.
Thank you for any tips!

Look for the 'download record removal form' on the following link

http://www.192.com/misc/privacy-policy/

Nick_C

Eco_Miser wrote: »

Most people is not all people. Driving licenses are only issued to those who have proved themselves competent to drive, and passports are normally only issued to those who wish to travel abroad. Requiring one of those documents to be able to vote would disenfranchise me, unless I paid a considerable sum for a passport which I don't want for its intended purpose.

It is also introducing a National Identity card by the back door.

No one is saying you will have to produce a passport or driving license to vote. If you don't have appropriate photo ID, you will be able to apply to your local council for ID that you can use on election day when going to vote.

Nick_C

usefulmale wrote: »

Can you explain why it is anti-social? I am a competent grown-up. If I don't register to vote, that affects me and me alone. Nobody else.

If you are eligible to vote and you don't register, you are breaking the law. Criminality is by its very nature anti social.

If you con't complete a registration form, you be sent reminders and a canvasser will call at your home. This increases the cost of the process which is paid for by taxpayers. Causing public funds to be wasted is antisocial.

By not registering, you are avoiding Jury Service, causing an increased burden on those of us who obey the law and register.

usefulmale wrote: »

Not registering does NOT distort population statistics. That is what the census is for.

You are correct. I was wrong.

usefulmale wrote: »

There cannot be 'adequate privacy' if you are required to present your personal numbers, that must be deleted 13 months down the line. After they have matched your details, your NI number should be deleted in 13 seconds.
I will NOT hand over my DOB or NI number. I will take the fine every time.

If you register on line, you NINo will not be stored by the local authority.

If you disagree with the law, campaign against it, don't simply become a criminal.

usefulmale

Nick_C wrote: »

If you disagree with the law, campaign against it, don't simply become a criminal.

Failing to register is a civil offence, not a criminal offence. Supplying false information IS a criminal offence.

Nick_C

usefulmale wrote: »

Failing to register is a civil offence, not a criminal offence. Supplying false information IS a criminal offence.

Under Individual Registration, failure to register can attract a civil penalty. However, it has always been a criminal offence to fail to return the canvass form or to provide false information.

To quote from Electoral Commission guidance;

There is a criminal penalty for failing to provide the information required by the HEF to the ERO, of a maximum £1,000. The penalty for providing false information to an ERO is up to six months imprisonment or a fine (on summary conviction) of a maximum £5000.

HEF = Household Enquiry Form
ERO = Electoral Registration Officer

emmb

I have been living in my own property for about 12 years so of course was registered there but then had a motorbike accident which has left me paralysed in a wheelchair..meaning I cannot access that property and cannot be adapted although trying to find a way. So in the meantime I am in rented adapted property in the next town which is temporary. I had expected to be there for only one month before finding private rental but medical reason meant I've been there a year now so have sorted council tax here and yet to sort council tax there (perhaps you have another forum for that?..if anyone knows can u tell me tks) but confused about the electoral role..so far I have ignored the relevant documentation completely (but think somehow I' may have been registered here maybe by the organisation I rent it from but not shure) What should I do..which should I register at and then what do I do about my own one?

Just some extra rambling..in case an element of it is relevant....Every month I think I'll move out of here into another property but I can't say for sure when it will be until relevant property comes up and I find out what goes on with work (another complicated story) so in my mind this is very temporary plus not long how long is the maximum I am allowed to stay here..it is like a halfway house after leaving hospital but strictly temporary.

My own property.. Right now I can't rent it out or sell it and aim to look to see if I can adapt it if not do work then rent it once my medication has been sorted for pain and cognitive skils.

MothballsWallet

Electoral_Commission wrote: »

With regard to whether registering is a legal requirement, if you receive a request for your registration information from your local electoral registration office then you are legally obliged to respond. If you do not respond you could face a fine of up to £1,000.

Why do people have to answer this piece of paper? Because the law says so? Well, there's a higher authority than UK law - it's called the UN. And that level has the power to sentence people to death for breaking their laws.

Australia has mandatory voting - the only way they haven't been prosecuted by the UN for that (since it's illegal to force people to vote under UN law) is by agreeing to put a "none of the above" option on the ballot papers so people who don't want to actually vote for a candidate put their X in that box.

I think there are far more important issues around engaging the electorate and overcoming voter apathy that the Electoral Commission could be working on other than changing the registration system.

emmb

Thankyou for posting but not really answering my qu..which was...

Two properties..which should register at. Awkward circumstances
I have been living in my own property for about 12 years so of course was registered there but then had a motorbike accident which has left me paralysed in a wheelchair..meaning I cannot access that property and cannot be adapted although trying to find a way. So in the meantime I am in rented adapted property in the next town which is temporary. I had expected to be there for only one month before finding private rental but medical reason meant I've been there a year now so have sorted council tax here and yet to sort council tax there (perhaps you have another forum for that?..if anyone knows can u tell me tks) but confused about the electoral role..so far I have ignored the relevant documentation completely (but think somehow I' may have been registered here maybe by the organisation I rent it from but not shure) What should I do..which should I register at and then what do I do about my own one?

Just some extra rambling..in case an element of it is relevant....Every month I think I'll move out of here into another property but I can't say for sure when it will be until relevant property comes up and I find out what goes on with work (another complicated story) so in my mind this is very temporary plus not long how long is the maximum I am allowed to stay here..it is like a halfway house after leaving hospital but strictly temporary.

My own property.. Right now I can't rent it out or sell it and aim to look to see if I can adapt it if not do work then rent it once my medication has been sorted for pain and cognitive skils.

MothballsWallet

Electoral_Commission wrote: »

Hi Somerset,

An applicant is legally required to provide their national insurance number and date of birth as part of an application to register. This is in order to prove they are who they say they are.

In certain limited circumstances, for example where an elector does not have a National Insurance number, electors will be required to provide evidence of their identity (i.e. a passport or driving licence) as an alternative means of proving they are who they say are.

If your local authority has invited you to register to vote it is important that you respond. If you don’t they must send you out reminders through the post and someone will visit your home. At the end of this process they may send you a requirement to register, if you fail to register without providing adequate reason why you have not, you may be fined £80. The decision on whether to impose a fine will be with your local authority. Not being registered can also impact on applications for mortgages or mobile phones, since credit reference agencies use the register to validate applications.

"Someone will visit your home" - really? A homo sapien who can be told to go away by the occupier/resident.

I've got a question for you: have these changes been checked with the UN International Criminal Court? I bet they haven't

General_Grant

emmb wrote: »

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Two properties..which should register at. . . .

As I understand it, you can register at more than one property but cannot vote using more than one registration in the same election.

If you are not going to return as an occupant of the property which had been your home for 12 years then don't register there.

Do you think you will be moving to a different local authority or parliamentary constituency?