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Landlord had a change of heart and now we're stuffed!
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If you read the original post, circumstances have changed meaning were no longer going to university. No longer students. And the comment on it doesn't matter if were students or not. The LL doesn't accept non students in the property due to multiple reasons such as CT, insurance ...
That sounds like a load of tosh that the LL is telling you. If you were to be the only two tenants living in the place then you'd be responsible for your own council tax. I suppose the bit about insurance might have something in it although I don't really get it.0 -
The LL doesn't accept non students in the property due to multiple reasons such as CT, insurance ...
If the LL refuses non-students, then he is the one that chose to terminate the tenancy, not you.
Council tax is the responsibility of individuals and the landlord's exposure is not changed by your education/employment status.
Insurance may matter, although I have only seen it the other way around (professionals becoming students) but it's a minor issue. If you sign up for the tenancy as a student, and enter as a worker, then that is not your problem. The landlord is responsible for ensuring valid insurance and it does not affect your tenancy in any way.0 -
princeofpounds wrote: »If the LL refuses non-students, then he is the one that chose to terminate the tenancy, not you.
Council tax is the responsibility of individuals and the landlord's exposure is not changed by your education/employment status.
Insurance may matter, although I have only seen it the other way around (professionals becoming students) but it's a minor issue. If you sign up for the tenancy as a student, and enter as a worker, then that is not your problem. The landlord is responsible for ensuring valid insurance and it does not affect your tenancy in any way.
Luckily im not too stressed about the situation, I'm trying to find some facts for my partner as he is losing his head at the moment. I have always said that the "no non students" rubbish he spouts is just that.. rubbish. But I know he is dead against non-students being tenants. I know the phone call which took place the LL was made aware that we weren't able to stay as we were no longer attending university and he stated that was fine and he would just keep our deposits, which tbh we aren't all that bothered about as they were only £150 each. In my opinion, as there is no guarantor and only an address on the contract we signed (which is in fact an old address) I think we should keep what little evidence we have, not move in and hope he doesn't take it as far as court for not complying with the contract. We tried to do it nicely, we even offered to pay an extra month rent upfront for the hassle which he politely declined, and then he had a sudden change of heart!
If he had just said no in the first place we wouldn't have signed for a new place!0 -
If you read the original post, circumstances have changed meaning were no longer going to university. No longer students. And the comment on it doesn't matter if were students or not. The LL doesn't accept non students in the property due to multiple reasons such as CT, insurance ...
If they are going to charge you tell them you intend to take up the tenacny and reside as a confirmed non student and let them break the contract.0 -
So he's made it clear he doesn't want you to live there, but wants you to pay rent anyway? He can't have it both ways...
Sounds to me like he is the one who cancelled the contract by stipulating you can't live there as non-students?0 -
As posts above.
Your change in occupation/status has NO bearing on the contract. The landlord agreed to let the property to John and Jane. John and Jane agreed to pay rent of £X per month.
If the LL now decides he no longer wishes to let, as agreed, to John and Jane (because they have got married, come out as gay, given up university, become evangelican christians, had their hair cut short, whatever) then it is the landlord who is in breach of contract.
John and Jane will be responsible for their own council tax.
I have never heard of a landlord's insurance policy that accepted students as tenants, but not non-students.0 -
If you read the original post, circumstances have changed meaning were no longer going to university. No longer students. And the comment on it doesn't matter if were students or not. The LL doesn't accept non students in the property due to multiple reasons such as CT, insurance ...
Would the contract not be nul and void considering that you are no longer students.
It is his rules that have excluded you from working.
Also, I'm sure that confusedandneedhelp did read the OP, it's just you didn't articulate that the LL did not accept non-students. Be clearer next time.We’ve had to remove your signature. Please check the Forum Rules if you’re unsure why it’s been removed and, if still unsure, email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
If you read the original post, circumstances have changed meaning were no longer going to university. No longer students. And the comment on it doesn't matter if were students or not. The LL doesn't accept non students in the property due to multiple reasons such as CT, insurance ...
The LL does accept non-students though - because he is trying to hold you to the contract. He can't have his cake and eat it.0 -
I'd be very surprised (though it is possible) if there were a clause written into the contract stipulating that the tenants must be students.DaveTheMus wrote: »Would the contract not be nul and void considering that you are no longer students.
But if there were:
* it would be unenforcible. What if the tenants were kicked out of college after 3 months? Would the landlord be able to enforce that clause at that point? No court would enforce
* in the current situation (tenants change status before the tenancy starts) this would constititute a breach of (that clause of the) contract. It would not make the contract nul and void (since it is not a fundamental term). The LL could perhaps sue the tenant for breach of contract, and claim damages.
And those 'damages' would be, errr....., well,.... his out of pocket costs resulting from the change of tenants' status, which is.... ummmm, .... well.... £0.52 I estimate.0 -
I would just love to see a judge's comments on the LL refusing to accept tenants who worked.0
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