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largest shed/building I can put in garden with permission

What's the largest shed/summer house I can build in my back garden without getting planning permission please? And must it be wood or could it be brick built?
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  • Doozergirl
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  • Also, you need to check that permitted development rights have not been removed on your property (ask the Council) - if they have, you won't be able to erect any outbuilding without first applying for planning permission.
  • macman
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    No, it can't be brick built, because that would be a permanent structure requiring PP.
    But isn't the question 'how large a garden shed do I actually want?'
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  • J-Mac
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    macman wrote: »
    No, it can't be brick built, because that would be a permanent structure requiring PP.
    But isn't the question 'how large a garden shed do I actually want?'


    According to the info on the planning portal you can build a brick outbuilding without planning permission providing you adhere to the various stipulations outlined.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    J-Mac wrote: »
    According to the info on the planning portal you can build a brick outbuilding without planning permission providing you adhere to the various stipulations outlined.

    That's what I found, I built a free standing conservatory with dwarf walls, technically an orangery, the limit from memory was 30sq mtrs but I can't recall if that was internal or external.
    All I know is that it's big enough for a full size snooker table to be correctly installed and used.;);)
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  • J-Mac
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    I've just had work start on an outbuilding myself. It'll be a 30m squared brick building with a pitched roof, and I intend to use it as a gym.
  • planning_officer
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    macman wrote: »
    No, it can't be brick built, because that would be a permanent structure requiring PP.
    But isn't the question 'how large a garden shed do I actually want?'
    If I had a pound for every time I've heard this... and still no idea where it originated from! There is no such thing as a temporary structure within a garden! (Unless you're planning on erecting a tent for a day and then taking it down). It doesn't matter if an outbuilding is made of bricks, wood or cheese... they're all assessed exactly the same when it comes to ascertaining whether something requires planning permission.

    Permitted development legislation (that's the things that don't need a planning application) makes no differentiation at all between materials when it comes to outbuildings.

    (Well, ok, maybe not cheese).
  • onomatopoeia99
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    That's what I found, I built a free standing conservatory with dwarf walls, technically an orangery, the limit from memory was 30sq mtrs but I can't recall if that was internal or external.

    30 sq m is the building regs limit for non-combustible structures within some distance (a metre, perhaps) of a boundary.
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  • cyclonebri1
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    30 sq m is the building regs limit for non-combustible structures within some distance (a metre, perhaps) of a boundary.

    Yeah, that sounds about right, saves all the bother and expense of inspections etc provided you comply with that, I'm pretty sure provided it's within permitted dev, it's the limit before PP comes into play?
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  • Yeah, that sounds about right, saves all the bother and expense of inspections etc provided you comply with that, I'm pretty sure provided it's within permitted dev, it's the limit before PP comes into play?
    No. The 30sqm limit is regarding building regs. It has nothing to do with planning permission.

    Planning permission may still be required - you can't just say that 30 sqm is fine. It depends on where on the property it is and whether the property has been extended before. For example, you can extend up to 4m to the rear of a detached house (more if you go through a Prior Notification procedure). However, if the property has already been extended, say 3m, beyond the original rear wall, then you only have 1m left to play with - anything more requires PP or a simplified Prior Notification under the larger extensions scheme.
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