Cats!

J_i_m

ACG wrote: »

Wild animals do not belong to anyone, so I would not expect them to be kept out my garden by their owners. Wild cats are not an issue around here, but if they were I would call RSPCA.

My point is that if you own a cat/dog/gerbil/goldfish/giraffe - look after it. Keep it on your property and dont leave it to others to clean up after.

Foxes/hedgehogs etc are nobodies pet, so if that comes on to my property then its up to me to sort out.

So because a cat might belong to someone it's somehow different to another animal if it takes a liberty in your garden?

I'm sorry.. but that's simply daft.. it's really quite illogical to tie it in with some kind of moral responsibility.

I mean what next? If a neighbour has homing pigeons are you going to suggest that it's selfish of them to let them out to fly, and that they should mop your roof any bird crap that may befall it?

ACG

Your making daft analogies re the pigeons which are completely irrelevant so im not getting into that debate.

Im not saying the cat or any animal has any moral responsibility - the owner does or should.

Just to add to that, if there was a fine for cats like their is dogs - I bet owners would be more aware of where their cats were.

jjlandlord

ACG wrote: »

Your making daft analogies re the pigeons which are completely irrelevant so im not getting into that debate.

Ah you said you didn't want to step into anything!

As I said, a nice flat

Pixie5740

My parents had problems with multiple neighbourhood cats !!!!!!!! in their garden. They used to shovel the next door neighbour's cat's poo back over the fence. Then I got them one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B005MW9VOM?pc_redir=1405425544&robot_redir=1

It's a cat scarecrow. It has a motion sensor in it so if a creature the size of a cat or larger goes past it squirts water at them. My dad had hours of fun watching it get the cats who no longer use the garden as a toilet. So it might be worth a shot.

jjlandlord

Pixie5740 wrote: »

They used to shovel the next door neighbour's cat's poo back over the fence. Then I got them one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B005MW9VOM?pc_redir=1405425544&robot_redir=1

I hoped very much it was some sort of catapult... Disappointed.

J_i_m

ACG wrote: »

Your making daft analogies re the pigeons which are completely irrelevant so im not getting into that debate.

Im not saying the cat or any animal has any moral responsibility - the owner does or should.

It's no more daft than your point of view. By your logic the pigeons are owned by someone, therefore that someone is responsible for clearing up after them.. wherever that might fall.

I've simply applied your logic on cats to pigeons.. the principle is the same.

But apparently.. a pigeon fancier is not selfish for letting pigeons crap... whilst a cat owner is.

Now, you might argue that you can't apply the same logic to the same things.. and maybe you'd be right. For instance using your example, if you took a dump on my lawn then you're damned right I'd be giving you an earful of abuse about it. Because hopefully you're a sane human being with the mental capacity to know that isn't on. I certainly wouldn't apply that logic to the cat though.. and I also wouldn't come hammering on your door complaining that your cat took a crap on my flower bed. I'd put it down one of those many things in nature that I can't influence, the inconvenience isn't exactly any different to if a wild animal did it, so why is it somehow socially different?

aggypanthus

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I see.

Well, I imagine this amongst other things such as the sound of the laughter of children or the peal of church wedding bells in the distance must be quite vexatious for you.

Nevertheless, fortunately for you I am an expert on cats and an expert on psychology, and cat psychology. And the psychology other other small mammals.

If you invest in a garden hose, as recommended in my hose thread from earlier:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5017026

A couple of squirts the next time they come in and you will doubtless find the meandering moggies will eschew your mansion for more palatable


misadventures.

As a psych expert you should understand the vexing prob of cat cerrap in ones garden, I refer to the stink and the vile feeling of cutting back plants to find ones hands covered in it!
As a cat psych expert tell me why they dont bury it, but do it on top of soft growth plants and grass?

As a psych expert why do you assume persons being annoyed thus , take offence at childrens gleeful sounds? That makes no sense, just a pointless jibe at OP

MABLE

ViolaLass wrote: »

Shout or hiss at them or spray water at them. They'll get the message.

What the new owners? Nah would take more than that to get rid of them:rotfl:

ACG

J_i_m wrote: »

It's no more daft than your point of view. By your logic the pigeons are owned by someone, therefore that someone is responsible for clearing up after them.. wherever that might fall.

I've simply applied your logic on cats to pigeons.. the principle is the same.

But apparently.. a pigeon fancier is not selfish for letting pigeons crap... whilst a cat owner is.

Now, you might argue that you can't apply the same logic to the same things.. and maybe you'd be right. For instance using your example, if you took a dump on my lawn then you're damned right I'd be giving you an earful of abuse about it. Because hopefully you're a sane human being with the mental capacity to know that isn't on. I certainly wouldn't apply that logic to the cat though.. and I also wouldn't come hammering on your door complaining that your cat took a crap on my flower bed. I'd put it down one of those many things in nature that I can't influence, the inconvenience isn't exactly any different to if a wild animal did it, so why is it somehow socially different?

Nice argument.

But...
A bird crapping on my roof - there is no harm in that. No kid is going to get ill from it and im not going to stand in it.

Lets assume it is on my garden its small enough to get washed away as soon as there is any rain and I dont have to clean it up.

sequence

So many posts over so little. Just throw water over them every time you see them. No food + water they will go away in a month or so.